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Moneygram now charging fees!

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Is it just me or is Moneygram now charging fees? I'm so bummed. I was using MG for a while now sending money from my USA bank account to my mobile wallet in Argentina. There were NO transaction fees so it was fabulous. I would use quite often to send smaller amounts to myself instead of large amounts in case the blue rate jumped up.

Now I was sending myself 80,000 pesos and they charged me $6 dollars for the transfer. Is this new for everyone? The exchange rate wasn't as much as Western Union but didn't have any fees. Is this just me? Anyone else using that hack and now stuck with fees?
 
Is it just me or is Moneygram now charging fees? I'm so bummed. I was using MG for a while now sending money from my USA bank account to my mobile wallet in Argentina. There were NO transaction fees so it was fabulous. I would use quite often to send smaller amounts to myself instead of large amounts in case the blue rate jumped up.

Now I was sending myself 80,000 pesos and they charged me $6 dollars for the transfer. Is this new for everyone? The exchange rate wasn't as much as Western Union but didn't have any fees. Is this just me? Anyone else using that hack and now stuck with fees?
I also send money to myself this way and I also got charged a fee. I don't use it too often but it was free like. you said. My fee was even higher at $7 but there was a promotion for using a debit card it was $4 USD. An ACH bank debit was only $1.99. Do you see that on your account? I didn't know if it was just a one time offer.
 
Keep in mind that the cost of transferring money using services like MoneyGram and WesternUnion is the sum of the "Fee" and the discount in the Exchange Rate given to you compared to Dollar CCL for example. While WesternUnion might give you a better exchange rate, they charge a higher fee. Moneygram used to charge no fee for certain types of transactions and very low fees for others, BUT the exchange rate they give you was much lower compared to WesternUnion. Now, it seems like Moneygram is charging a fee for transferring to a digital wallet, BUT the difference in the exchange rate between WesternUnion and MoneyGram has narrowed a bit. In other words, the total cost of transferring is basically still the same. You're just paying more in fees, but paying less in exchange rate difference.

To determine which Money Transfer Service costs less to send, divide what the recipients will get by the amount you will pay in total with the fees included. (Keep in mind that the fees and exchange rate differ based on payment method and receiving methods, so make sure you are comparing the same selections in both service providers.)
EffectiveExchangeRate After Including Fees = (SendAmount * ExchangeRate) / (SendAmount + Fees)

1. Higher advertised Exchange Rate, with fee
Let's assume you're sending $1,000 with $10 Fee and ExchangeRate of 1,313.
Recipient gets: 1,313,000 with Sender Paying $1010.
The Effective Exchange Rate Including Fees = (1000 * 1313) / (1000 + 10) = 1300

2. Lower advertised Exchange Rate, with NO fees
Let's assume you're sending $1,000 with $0 Fee and ExchangeRate of 1,300.
Recipient gets: 1,300,000 with Sender Paying $1000.
The Effective Exchange Rate Including Fees = (1000 * 1300) / (1000 + 0) = 1300

3. Very high advertised Exchange Rate, with very high fees
Let's assume you're sending $1,000 with $50 Fee and ExchangeRate of 1,365.
Recipient gets: 1,365,000 with Sender Paying $1050.
The Effective Exchange Rate Including Fees = (1000 * 1365) / (1000 + 50) = 1300

As you can see, all three examples have the same Effective Exchange Rate,
Basically MoneyGram is going from example #2 to #1, and WesternUnion being representative of #3, assuming Dollar CCL being around 1370. Obviously that's not the current exchange rate.
 
Keep in mind that the cost of transferring money using services like MoneyGram and WesternUnion is the sum of the "Fee" and the discount in the Exchange Rate given to you compared to Dollar CCL for example. While WesternUnion might give you a better exchange rate, they charge a higher fee. Moneygram used to charge no fee for certain types of transactions and very low fees for others, BUT the exchange rate they give you was much lower compared to WesternUnion. Now, it seems like Moneygram is charging a fee for transferring to a digital wallet, BUT the difference in the exchange rate between WesternUnion and MoneyGram has narrowed a bit. In other words, the total cost of transferring is basically still the same. You're just paying more in fees, but paying less in exchange rate difference.

To determine which Money Transfer Service costs less to send, divide what the recipients will get by the amount you will pay in total with the fees included. (Keep in mind that the fees and exchange rate differ based on payment method and receiving methods, so make sure you are comparing the same selections in both service providers.)
EffectiveExchangeRate After Including Fees = (SendAmount * ExchangeRate) / (SendAmount + Fees)

1. Higher advertised Exchange Rate, with fee
Let's assume you're sending $1,000 with $10 Fee and ExchangeRate of 1,313.
Recipient gets: 1,313,000 with Sender Paying $1010.
The Effective Exchange Rate Including Fees = (1000 * 1313) / (1000 + 10) = 1300

2. Lower advertised Exchange Rate, with NO fees
Let's assume you're sending $1,000 with $0 Fee and ExchangeRate of 1,300.
Recipient gets: 1,300,000 with Sender Paying $1000.
The Effective Exchange Rate Including Fees = (1000 * 1300) / (1000 + 0) = 1300

3. Very high advertised Exchange Rate, with very high fees
Let's assume you're sending $1,000 with $50 Fee and ExchangeRate of 1,365.
Recipient gets: 1,365,000 with Sender Paying $1050.
The Effective Exchange Rate Including Fees = (1000 * 1365) / (1000 + 50) = 1300

As you can see, all three examples have the same Effective Exchange Rate,
Basically MoneyGram is going from example #2 to #1, and WesternUnion being representative of #3, assuming Dollar CCL being around 1370. Obviously that's not the current exchange rate.
Thanks @TonyTigre. This is very helpful. I don't send funds too often but it all adds up. Do you know if they target discounted fees to specific people or how often you use it? For instance, I don't use it too often and many times there is a discounted rate when I go to send funds in WU or MG. Is there anything that prompts these discounts?
 
Thanks Tony! @TonyTigre there was some talk about the banks there increasing cash withdrawal limits on foreign debit cards. Do you know anything about this? Have they increased the amount I can take at one time from the bank ATM? Last trips the limit was very low how much I could withdraw. Any better?

@Darksider415? I know you have a local account but do you know if USA debit cards can take out more now?
 
Is it just me or is Moneygram now charging fees? I'm so bummed. I was using MG for a while now sending money from my USA bank account to my mobile wallet in Argentina. There were NO transaction fees so it was fabulous. I would use quite often to send smaller amounts to myself instead of large amounts in case the blue rate jumped up.

Now I was sending myself 80,000 pesos and they charged me $6 dollars for the transfer. Is this new for everyone? The exchange rate wasn't as much as Western Union but didn't have any fees. Is this just me? Anyone else using that hack and now stuck with fees?
Damn an end of an era. Figured it would eventually end.
 
@Betsy Ross, I would suggest that you compare the services inclusive of any discounts at the time you want to make the transfer. Waiting for a discount or promotion might not be practical since the exchange rate can fluctuate quite a bit while you're waiting.

@Uncle Wong, the amount you can withdraw from ATM is still relatively low. A few weeks ago, I made two withdrawals from different banks with one allowing me to withdraw 50,000, while the other only 40,000. Considering they charge over 10,000 for the ATM fee for each, that's ~20% and ~25%!!! Ridiculous! My bank reimbursed the ATM fees, but it's still neither ideal nor practical to get cash that way. On the plus side, at least they are giving out 10,000 bills now.
 
@Betsy Ross, I would suggest that you compare the services inclusive of any discounts at the time you want to make the transfer. Waiting for a discount or promotion might not be practical since the exchange rate can fluctuate quite a bit while you're waiting.

@Uncle Wong, the amount you can withdraw from ATM is still relatively low. A few weeks ago, I made two withdrawals from different banks with one allowing me to withdraw 50,000, while the other only 40,000. Considering they charge over 10,000 for the ATM fee for each, that's ~20% and ~25%!!! Ridiculous! My bank reimbursed the ATM fees, but it's still neither ideal nor practical to get cash that way. On the plus side, at least they are giving out 10,000 bills now.
Correct on the still puny withdrawal limits. My European bank account will only let me take out 40k pesos at a time. And the crazy high 10,000 fee! I agree with you Tony it needs to be changed. Unfortunately my bank does not reimburse for fees but this is not practical taking out cash. They need to increase the limit. Crazy that it is so low.
 
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