Politics anti-Milei apartment owners: i will buy your BsAs apartment, if you're leaving the country

[StatusNomadicus]

cash is king in most of the world, from India to Russia to China to Argentina...really don't get the theme of a few folks here, thinking Buenos Aires has anything unique about it. you can say that any city in the world is the 'most difficult to ______' and there will be something that fits

Greece is the most-difficult to do business https://www.accountancydaily.co/greece-most-difficult-country-operate-business

South Africa businesses have difficult taxes, if you want to invest in property and have a business there: "Paying taxes takes 200 hours to complete per year and requires nine payments." https://www.tmf-group.com/en/news-insights/business-culture/top-challenges-south-africa/

Sacramento CA has crazy alimony laws, and this guy had to pay $20,000 monthly because his investments/business had high revenue https://www.sovereignman.com/trends/this-guy-got-destroyed-by-the-system-20507/

France's Macron thinks you have no right to self-defense if your business is being burned with you inside of it https://www.europe1.fr/politique/op...ge-demmanuel-macron-corrige-le-propos-4103251

Thailand foreigners can't own land, they can only lease it for 30 years at a time: https://www.retalkasia.com/blog/sur...-leases-good-thailand/leasehold/leasehold-act

UAE/Dubai defaults your inheritance to Sharia Law unless you have a lawyer and make sure everything is in order: "when a non-Muslim foreigner dies without making a Will, the assets in the UAE will be subject to a devolution based on Sharia Law." https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=c61df5b3-47ec-459e-894b-5f2bd3422ada

India is so oppressive and financially-restrictive that Indians have to stash gold bars under their beds as savings https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2022/02/26/gold-demand-has-surged-in-india

every country has its challenges, and there's a reason so many USA folks are getting out of the States, so i think it's as meaningless to say "Argentina is unique because historically property is purchased with $100 bill cash" since you could find something unique about every jurisdiction. it's just not helpful, especially when we're watching Milei delete thousands of laws; tomorrow he could announce that apartments can be purchased directly with DogeCoin...we're in unprecedented times, which is the point of my inquiry 😛

i'm still looking for an Escribano that knows about Bitcoin/crypto, which seems to be the bottleneck of this scenario

 

[Che Vos]

For me it is super easy on this property. I just left a cash deposit to take it off the market. And then @BuySellBA is getting my Tax ID # (CDI). I had to sign a power of attorney (POA) so that they could sign the title deed closing and also manage the property when I am not here. It was one document. Then I just wired from my bank in Canada that has US dollars to the developer account. @BuySellBA structured it so I paid $0 in fees. That saved me 4%. One builder that I saw made me pay the costs to get the US dollars here. @earlyretirement told me this method is completely legal and he has been working with the banker for 20+ years.

I couldn't be happier with how easy it was and they saved me money getting it here. I always heard there was no free way to get money here to purchase a property but they helped me do it. Was very easy.

I think the only people that think crypto is cool is the people that are in it. The vast majority of the world doesn't care about it. In Argentina I don't see mass adoption of it. In fact, the numbers looks like they are shrinking. It will probably always be cash here. @StatusNomadicus why don't you just exit out of your crypto and then just deposit the funds into your bank and then wire in like I did. Seems simple, cheap and easy. Or is this some tax dodge technique?

I see lot of changes with the DNU last night. I didn't read yet.

I like to learn. @StatusNomadicus I don't understand. Why can't you just sell or cash out your crypto and then send the cash. What the difference? Do you lose money? My cousin said she have crypto and some people she sell direct but when it went up many years ago she say she sell lots of bitcoin and then she paid for apartment. What advantage you have not doing the same? Or maybe disadvantage?

 

[StatusNomadicus]

Foreign Affairs at 13:51 today 21Dec2023: "We ratify and confirm that in Argentina contracts can be agreed in Bitcoin. And also any other crypto and/or species such as kilos of steer or liters of milk. Art 766. - Obligation of the debtor. The debtor must deliver the corresponding amount of the designated currency, whether the currency is legal tender in the Republic or not."

Wikipedia: "Diana Elena Mondino (born 8 August 1958) is an Argentine libertarian economist, academic, and politician, currently serving as the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Argentine Republic since 2023 under President Javier Milei. Mondino was previously the Director of Institutional Affairs at the University of CEMA." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Mondino

credit to @BowTiedMara

@Che Vos - i muted you, so i have to manually click to see your posts. when you address the multiple times i've raised issues with you, i will respond. from now on, since i believe you are a bad actor/disingenuous, i will not respond until you address my concerns. i have tried explaining this; not going to bring it up again. Thread:

Legal - Any risk to constantly overstaying on tourist visa? How many times can you do border runs in Argentina?

I still can't understand why you want to stay in my country for long long time and not get legal. It is very easy in Argentina unlike the USA or UK or other places where my Argentine friends moved. Even in London if you marry a citizen it's not so easy from what my friend told me. I have...

www.expatsba.com

 

[Wally]

Foreign Affairs at 13:51 today 21Dec2023: "We ratify and confirm that in Argentina contracts can be agreed in Bitcoin. And also any other crypto and/or species such as kilos of steer or liters of milk. Art 766. - Obligation of the debtor. The debtor must deliver the corresponding amount of the designated currency, whether the currency is legal tender in the Republic or not."

Wikipedia: "Diana Elena Mondino (born 8 August 1958) is an Argentine libertarian economist, academic, and politician, currently serving as the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Argentine Republic since 2023 under President Javier Milei. Mondino was previously the Director of Institutional Affairs at the University of CEMA." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Mondino

credit to @BowTiedMara

@Che Vos - i muted you, so i have to manually click to see your posts. when you address the multiple times i've raised issues with you, i will respond. from now on, since i believe you are a bad actor/disingenuous, i will not respond until you address my concerns. i have tried explaining this; not going to bring it up again. Thread:

Legal - Any risk to constantly overstaying on tourist visa? How many times can you do border runs in Argentina?

I still can't understand why you want to stay in my country for long long time and not get legal. It is very easy in Argentina unlike the USA or UK or other places where my Argentine friends moved. Even in London if you marry a citizen it's not so easy from what my friend told me. I have...

www.expatsba.com

Even if they make it legal there is the matter if locals want to be paid in bitcoin or other crypto. But a step in the right direction.

 

[StatusNomadicus]

not much chatter for a pretty momentous decree! if you want to see the (Spanish) DNU, it's at this Google Drive link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FyEEyQmKSjs0d4fIwnQ937WbK2LEgDcu/view

 

[Che Vos]

@Che Vos - i muted you, so i have to manually click to see your posts. when you address the multiple times i've raised issues with you, i will respond. from now on, since i believe you are a bad actor/disingenuous, i will not respond until you address my concerns. i have tried explaining this; not going to bring it up again. Thread:

Legal - Any risk to constantly overstaying on tourist visa? How many times can you do border runs in Argentina?

I still can't understand why you want to stay in my country for long long time and not get legal. It is very easy in Argentina unlike the USA or UK or other places where my Argentine friends moved. Even in London if you marry a citizen it's not so easy from what my friend told me. I have...

www.expatsba.com

Actor? I'm not actor. I work in a studio for artwork.

 

[StatusNomadicus]

there is the matter if locals want to be paid in bitcoin

I'm not actor

literally the first Google result is "bad actor - noun (plural: bad actors). a person, group, country, etc. who purposely and usually repeatedly engages in very bad behavior (such as committing crimes or causing harm to others). Jan 3, 2024"

this was clarified by my "/" which included Disingenuous to add context. you really need to read more and talk less. there is a lot to learn in life, yet you sit on an Expat forum and post idiotic opinions that are based on erroneous premises. like i said before, on all the other threads where you refuse to converse about anything that dissents from your tribalistic faith/beliefs, go read something that will help you improve your life instead of worrying about grand-scale events that you have zero control over.

@CheVos: no puedes cambiar lo que no puedes cambiar; pero, afortunadamente, tú PUEDES crecer tu mente, aprender cómo funciona la economía, aprender de tu propia psicología, y leer los libros más influyentes de la historia (no, este grupo no incluye al Che Guevara, lo siento). hay:

1. https://listado.mercadolibre.com.ar/jordan-b-peterson

2. https://pdfcoffee.com/thomas-sowell-fatos-e-falacias-da-economia-pdf-free.html

3. https://pdfcoffee.com/discrimination-and-disparities-by-thomassowell-4-pdf-free.html

4. https://pdfcoffee.com/intellectuals-and-race-by-thomas-sowell-pdf-free.html

 

[Avocado]

literally the first Google result is "bad actor - noun (plural: bad actors). a person, group, country, etc. who purposely and usually repeatedly engages in very bad behavior (such as committing crimes or causing harm to others). Jan 3, 2024"

this was clarified by my "/" which included Disingenuous to add context. you really need to read more and talk less. there is a lot to learn in life, yet you sit on an Expat forum and post idiotic opinions that are based on erroneous premises. like i said before, on all the other threads where you refuse to converse about anything that dissents from your tribalistic faith/beliefs, go read something that will help you improve your life instead of worrying about grand-scale events that you have zero control over.

@CheVos: no puedes cambiar lo que no puedes cambiar; pero, afortunadamente, tú PUEDES crecer tu mente, aprender cómo funciona la economía, aprender de tu propia psicología, y leer los libros más influyentes de la historia (no, este grupo no incluye al Che Guevara, lo siento). hay:

1. https://listado.mercadolibre.com.ar/jordan-b-peterson

2. https://pdfcoffee.com/thomas-sowell-fatos-e-falacias-da-economia-pdf-free.html

3. https://pdfcoffee.com/discrimination-and-disparities-by-thomassowell-4-pdf-free.html

4. https://pdfcoffee.com/intellectuals-and-race-by-thomas-sowell-pdf-free.html

Is any Google result for expat illegally staying in Argentina always so cheap and wants to bring guns to Argentina?

 

[StatusNomadicus]

update on Crypto: i just learned that

https://mgotz.com/

has seen at least 2 deals with crypto go through! so, i reached-out to see if i can identify the Escribano used.

also, related to this Matt Gotz on the old forum (@mgni), looks like he got deleted on BAExpats also:

"Re Max Gotz: all my msg. are gone | Buenos Aires Expats ...
baexpats.org
https://baexpats.org › ... › Expat Life
Jan 22, 2024 — All my e mail messages, from a period of several years, from Max P. Gotz, are gone ! (except a couple from his new email address) They´ve ..."

https://baexpats.org/threads/re-max-gotz-all-my-msg-are-gone.46809/

(now the link is missing...Igor at it again!)

he wrote a rural investment guide for Argentina, which he put on the old forum. here it is on Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A6URBcTjeBLVSykH0W5k8nUxncXsRwJA/view?usp=sharing

 

[MikeYoung]

update on Crypto: i just learned that

https://mgotz.com/

has seen at least 2 deals with crypto go through! so, i reached-out to see if i can identify the Escribano used.

also, related to this Matt Gotz on the old forum (@mgni), looks like he got deleted on BAExpats also:

"Re Max Gotz: all my msg. are gone | Buenos Aires Expats ...
baexpats.org
https://baexpats.org › ... › Expat Life
Jan 22, 2024 — All my e mail messages, from a period of several years, from Max P. Gotz, are gone ! (except a couple from his new email address) They´ve ..."

https://baexpats.org/threads/re-max-gotz-all-my-msg-are-gone.46809/

(now the link is missing...Igor at it again!)

he wrote a rural investment guide for Argentina, which he put on the old forum. here it is on Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A6URBcTjeBLVSykH0W5k8nUxncXsRwJA/view?usp=sharing

Great news about crypto being used for transactions. But in going to some new developments it looks like the developers will allow you to wire to their account abroad so that is easy. Hopefully more of the same will follow with Milei. With crypto you will need both the lawyer and the seller to agree I guess.

 

[StatusNomadicus]

it looks like the developers will allow you to wire to their account abroad

i haven't found anyone else other than earlyretirement/G&D who can do this...can you share what other developers/etc. do this?

With crypto you will need both the lawyer and the seller to agree I guess.

my biggest problem is finding an Escribano. the college of escribanos won't write back (vacation from Dec-Jan i guess for most lawyers and schools), realtors are the worst in Buenos Aires, and overall sellers put very little effort into responding on WhatsApp or providing any info. there's a real-estate lawyer in Villa Crespo who wanted to sell me his renovated studio for Bitcoin Cash (BCH) and every time i asked for some details, like reading the Escritura, he got weird and kept changing the subject. and then when i asked him how we would do a crypto transaction, with which Escribano, and how it's going to be legal now, he wrote back "i don't know" - the guy is literally a BsAs lawyer in the industry!! people just don't give a sh*t here. guess life isn't too bad if you can provide crap service and not be in too much of a hurry to do anything.

i wonder if the BsAs whiners about the economy are just as dramatic as the 'oppressed' people in the USA. you know the ones; they have new iPhones, fast internet, work an air-conditioned desk job where they're on social media most of the day, and are caught-up on Netflix but have no clue about anything in the real world...the ones who claim the USA is becoming a Fascist state because of Trump. you know the ones 😛

i've seen such horrible work ethic and customer service in BsAs that i suspect people are actually a lot better-off than they claim, with USD stashed under the mattress, and maybe just that's the culture - so no one thinks you're worth anything. but, it's weird, and i still haven't figured-out how to get most people (of course there are 20% of people who are amazing and work hard) to respond and stay on-track when i'm trying to pay them ; )

 

[MikeYoung]

i haven't found anyone else other than earlyretirement/G&D who can do this...can you share what other developers/etc. do this?


my biggest problem is finding an Escribano. the college of escribanos won't write back (vacation from Dec-Jan i guess for most lawyers and schools), realtors are the worst in Buenos Aires, and overall sellers put very little effort into responding on WhatsApp or providing any info. there's a real-estate lawyer in Villa Crespo who wanted to sell me his renovated studio for Bitcoin Cash (BCH) and every time i asked for some details, like reading the Escritura, he got weird and kept changing the subject. and then when i asked him how we would do a crypto transaction, with which Escribano, and how it's going to be legal now, he wrote back "i don't know" - the guy is literally a BsAs lawyer in the industry!! people just don't give a sh*t here. guess life isn't too bad if you can provide crap service and not be in too much of a hurry to do anything.

i wonder if the BsAs whiners about the economy are just as dramatic as the 'oppressed' people in the USA. you know the ones; they have new iPhones, fast internet, work an air-conditioned desk job where they're on social media most of the day, and are caught-up on Netflix but have no clue about anything in the real world...the ones who claim the USA is becoming a Fascist state because of Trump. you know the ones 😛

i've seen such horrible work ethic and customer service in BsAs that i suspect people are actually a lot better-off than they claim, with USD stashed under the mattress, and maybe just that's the culture - so no one thinks you're worth anything. but, it's weird, and i still haven't figured-out how to get most people (of course there are 20% of people who are amazing and work hard) to respond and stay on-track when i'm trying to pay them ; )

Oh I only talked to a few but I assumed if G&D could do it then others. I talked to one a few months ago that said they could do it. I think it was https://northbaires.com.ar but you might want to ask them if they can. But they told me last year they could as well. But I have not talked to them recently.

Many people are flaky there.

 

[StatusNomadicus]

I assumed if G&D could do it then others.

from what i understood, @earlyretirement was the one to pioneer this with G&D, and they are a sort of niche (or were, if someone else is doing it now). i haven't heard anyone else willing to accept Wire for properties; everything has been USD physical $100 cash bills, at a cueva, where the Escribano counts and verifies. but it would be good info in case you wanted to do this, but G&D didn't have any more apartments, or nothing you wanted/wrong area for you. anyone else chime-in on int'l Wire Transfers other than @BuySellBA and G&D team?

 

[Dazed & Confused]

from what i understood, @earlyretirement was the one to pioneer this with G&D, and they are a sort of niche (or were, if someone else is doing it now). i haven't heard anyone else willing to accept Wire for properties; everything has been USD physical $100 cash bills, at a cueva, where the Escribano counts and verifies. but it would be good info in case you wanted to do this, but G&D didn't have any more apartments, or nothing you wanted/wrong area for you. anyone else chime-in on int'l Wire Transfers other than @BuySellBA and G&D team?

We have looked at some new construction properties but price on them is higher than older properties. BuysellBA mentioned to us that if the seller has an account outside of Argentina it is legal to wire directly to the buyer and that has been a possible option in one of the properties we are looking at. The seller said we can pay them outside of Argentina.

Also, on the other transactions it is not like we need to bring the funds. It would just be wired to a financial institution and they would close there. I don't have any issues with that option but it sounds like the fee is about 2.5% to 3.5% fee. But it sounds totally safe. This cash business is strange but looking at the history of Argentina I wouldn't trust the banks there either!

 

[Vince]

We have looked at some new construction properties but price on them is higher than older properties. BuysellBA mentioned to us that if the seller has an account outside of Argentina it is legal to wire directly to the buyer and that has been a possible option in one of the properties we are looking at. The seller said we can pay them outside of Argentina.

Also, on the other transactions it is not like we need to bring the funds. It would just be wired to a financial institution and they would close there. I don't have any issues with that option but it sounds like the fee is about 2.5% to 3.5% fee. But it sounds totally safe. This cash business is strange but looking at the history of Argentina I wouldn't trust the banks there either!

Yes this is correct. If the seller has a foreign bank account you can wire the funds to them to their bank account. This is how we purchased one of our properties in Argentina. Just keep in mind the seller has to be willing to have that bank account listed with AFIP because it will be listed on the title deed.

 

[StatusNomadicus]

there is the matter if locals want to be paid in bitcoin or other crypto

well, yeah, of course. that's the case in any country at any time. as i posted in response to this before, there are now legal ways to accept Bitcoin! and, obviously Locals prefer to be paid in Dollars instead of Pesos most of the time, so there's already a preference for currencies other than the local ARS/peso. with Cryptocurrency, there can be even more stability than the US Dollar (finite supply, open-source code, unbreakable tech, permissionless and decentralized, peer-to-peer).

Is any Google result for expat illegally staying in Argentina always so cheap and wants to bring guns to Argentina?

is this even a sentence? i think i can decode most of this, but it's hard...not only because you're terrifyingly unintelligent, but also because you Commies always spend so much time blaming others, that you rarely develop your own skills, and it shows, because you're a horrible writer:
1. criticizing my reference to Google? not sure what this means. is Google not a good service for you?
2. Expat illegally staying in Argentina? i'm on a tourist visa, getting it extended before it expires (unlike the 95% of people here that you don't harass when they overstay or border-run, jackass), and i've met with multiple immigration lawyers in paid consultations, to get residency and citizenship. what the f*ck are you talking about?? i'm even writing guides for how other people can do it legally. god you are such a moron, every time.
3. always so cheap? i think this is a reference to criticizing Cubierto? i already wrote paragraphs on that, and you haven't responded or made any salient points for why you think more restaurants should implement it. are you just another account with CheVos, the same stupid person? you guys sure are clones, 95% of the time. or is this is reference to me posting places like 7167 Burger where prices are low? because by avoiding expensive places, i'm actually rejecting the high prices that you complain about, and i'm supporting businesses that don't raise prices to extort lavish tourist spending. so, we should be on the same side on this. but, as a tribal zealot, all you can drone-on about is 'other guys evil' without even knowing what the other argument is.
4. bring guns? i would be getting residency, living in the campo, and purchasing a legal pistol/rifle/shotgun that is alreay here in Argentina. so, again, do you ever stop and think how you're wrong so much? and maybe thought about how it might be better if you listened and read, rather than posted non-stop about things you have no clue about?

price on them is higher than older properties.

sure, and you can probably talk that down 5-15% just like used ones. but there is probably a warranty, and you're getting new fixtures, and you have a certainty that the "HOA" won't deny you doing things like renting on Airbnb, so you're paying for more than just square footage, i think

it sounds like the fee is about 2.5% to 3.5% fee

sounds about right, and you need to calculate the Boleto, Escribano, etc. all found on buysellba.com/step-by-step-guide-to-buy

the seller has to be willing to have that bank account listed with AFIP because it will be listed on the title deed.

and there's the elephant in the room of the sale price. the Seller will want to receive full price, but record a lower price for their taxes/etc. and the Buyer will want to pay less fees up-front, so only about 60-75% of the real estate price is usually accurate (the 25-40% is done "in the black" in Argentina, by almost everyone). just depends on what you want to deal with when you go to sell the place.


and regarding my ongoing Crypto research for future people buying properties in Argentina, a translated quote:
"Cryptomonedas and tokens appear in this context as protagonists, beyond crowdfunding. While worldwide the legal structure of crypto instruments is finished shaping, in the country it is still common to confuse “ tokenización with other resources granted by the Civil and Commercial Code. Articles 1820 and 1850 establish the possibility of creating a special register of securities at the notarial headquarters. In other words, they somehow contemplate the possibility of introducing new mechanisms for financial operations in the virtual plane." https://www.cronista.com/infotechno...y-poder-ahorrar-en-dolares-20201008-0005.html

the first thing to research are articles 1820 and 1850 of the CCyC in Argentina. then, find an Escribano who will do everything according to your wishes (record the amount of USD in Crypto form on a special register of securities)

what is unknown is how a Sale would go in the future, if you buy with Bitcoin. i think there have been crypto sales already in Argentina (though i can't find a specific one yet), but i don't think there have been sales, yet.

 

[earlyretirement]

well, yeah, of course. that's the case in any country at any time. as i posted in response to this before, there are now legal ways to accept Bitcoin! and, obviously Locals prefer to be paid in Dollars instead of Pesos most of the time, so there's already a preference for currencies other than the local ARS/peso. with Cryptocurrency, there can be even more stability than the US Dollar (finite supply, open-source code, unbreakable tech, permissionless and decentralized, peer-to-peer).


is this even a sentence? i think i can decode most of this, but it's hard...not only because you're terrifyingly unintelligent, but also because you Commies always spend so much time blaming others, that you rarely develop your own skills, and it shows, because you're a horrible writer:
1. criticizing my reference to Google? not sure what this means. is Google not a good service for you?
2. Expat illegally staying in Argentina? i'm on a tourist visa, getting it extended before it expires (unlike the 95% of people here that you don't harass when they overstay or border-run, jackass), and i've met with multiple immigration lawyers in paid consultations, to get residency and citizenship. what the f*ck are you talking about?? i'm even writing guides for how other people can do it legally. god you are such a moron, every time.
3. always so cheap? i think this is a reference to criticizing Cubierto? i already wrote paragraphs on that, and you haven't responded or made any salient points for why you think more restaurants should implement it. are you just another account with CheVos, the same stupid person? you guys sure are clones, 95% of the time. or is this is reference to me posting places like 7167 Burger where prices are low? because by avoiding expensive places, i'm actually rejecting the high prices that you complain about, and i'm supporting businesses that don't raise prices to extort lavish tourist spending. so, we should be on the same side on this. but, as a tribal zealot, all you can drone-on about is 'other guys evil' without even knowing what the other argument is.
4. bring guns? i would be getting residency, living in the campo, and purchasing a legal pistol/rifle/shotgun that is alreay here in Argentina. so, again, do you ever stop and think how you're wrong so much? and maybe thought about how it might be better if you listened and read, rather than posted non-stop about things you have no clue about?



sure, and you can probably talk that down 5-15% just like used ones. but there is probably a warranty, and you're getting new fixtures, and you have a certainty that the "HOA" won't deny you doing things like renting on Airbnb, so you're paying for more than just square footage, i think


sounds about right, and you need to calculate the Boleto, Escribano, etc. all found on buysellba.com/step-by-step-guide-to-buy


and there's the elephant in the room of the sale price. the Seller will want to receive full price, but record a lower price for their taxes/etc. and the Buyer will want to pay less fees up-front, so only about 60-75% of the real estate price is usually accurate (the 25-40% is done "in the black" in Argentina, by almost everyone). just depends on what you want to deal with when you go to sell the place.


and regarding my ongoing Crypto research for future people buying properties in Argentina, a translated quote:
"Cryptomonedas and tokens appear in this context as protagonists, beyond crowdfunding. While worldwide the legal structure of crypto instruments is finished shaping, in the country it is still common to confuse “ tokenización with other resources granted by the Civil and Commercial Code. Articles 1820 and 1850 establish the possibility of creating a special register of securities at the notarial headquarters. In other words, they somehow contemplate the possibility of introducing new mechanisms for financial operations in the virtual plane." https://www.cronista.com/infotechno...y-poder-ahorrar-en-dolares-20201008-0005.html

the first thing to research are articles 1820 and 1850 of the CCyC in Argentina. then, find an Escribano who will do everything according to your wishes (record the amount of USD in Crypto form on a special register of securities)

what is unknown is how a Sale would go in the future, if you buy with Bitcoin. i think there have been crypto sales already in Argentina (though i can't find a specific one yet), but i don't think there have been sales, yet.

Thanks for the updates on the crypto. At least with Milei he is making it easier but in many transactions, I have never come across any successful sales/purchases in crypto. I hope in the future more transactions are done this way but I still think it will be a while before it becomes common.

 

[FuturoBA]

BowTiedMara reports seeing RE bought with crypto.

 

[BuySellBA]

BowTiedMara reports seeing RE bought with crypto.

Real estate purchases with crypto are extremely rare. They might be happening but it's certainly NOT the norm.

 

[Digital Nomad]

Foreign Affairs at 13:51 today 21Dec2023: "We ratify and confirm that in Argentina contracts can be agreed in Bitcoin. And also any other crypto and/or species such as kilos of steer or liters of milk. Art 766. - Obligation of the debtor. The debtor must deliver the corresponding amount of the designated currency, whether the currency is legal tender in the Republic or not."

Wikipedia: "Diana Elena Mondino (born 8 August 1958) is an Argentine libertarian economist, academic, and politician, currently serving as the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Argentine Republic since 2023 under President Javier Milei. Mondino was previously the Director of Institutional Affairs at the University of CEMA." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Mondino

credit to @BowTiedMara

@Che Vos - i muted you, so i have to manually click to see your posts. when you address the multiple times i've raised issues with you, i will respond. from now on, since i believe you are a bad actor/disingenuous, i will not respond until you address my concerns. i have tried explaining this; not going to bring it up again. Thread:

Legal - Any risk to constantly overstaying on tourist visa? How many times can you do border runs in Argentina?

I still can't understand why you want to stay in my country for long long time and not get legal. It is very easy in Argentina unlike the USA or UK or other places where my Argentine friends moved. Even in London if you marry a citizen it's not so easy from what my friend told me. I have...

www.expatsba.com

I saw this online but when I go to the link on Mercado Libre it does not work. Does anyone know where the link on Mercado Libre to see the properties for sale payable in bitcoin?

MercadoLibre now sells properties that can be paid with crypto

The Mercado Libre e-commerce will allow real estate agencies to publish properties such as apartments, houses, land, lots and premises in Bitcoin. How the buying and selling of real estate in cryptocurrencies works. Today, Mercado Libre announced that it will accept property ads in...

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