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Banking Credit Card real-world rate "MEP" transaction repo (Dec2023)
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Digital Nomad
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Yes my first time I sent in WU the fee was waived. I sent in $500 USD and the fee was waived. I would have sent in more had I known the dollar was going to get so weak. Seems like the rate keeps going down.
StatusNomadicus
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it does look like it's declining. that being said, i still haven't seen price increases on most things in Pesos. there are of course still nice cuts of beef for 10,000 Pesos/kg, but i also just bought some Azotillo, Falda, Osobuco, Picada/ground, pork loin, chorizo, etc. all for much chaper. you can still get some fresh beef cuts for dirt cheap (prices in Cordoba Province at Disco)
1,799 Espinazo https://www.disco.com.ar/espinazo-4/p
2,499 Falda https://www.disco.com.ar/falda-2-2/p
3,199 Comun de Novillito https://www.disco.com.ar/carnaza-comun-de-novillito-3/p
3,599 Osobuco https://www.disco.com.ar/osobuco-de-novillito/p
3,699 Azotillo https://www.disco.com.ar/azotillo-3-2/p
Monday revised MEP:
Tuesday MEP:
1,799 Espinazo https://www.disco.com.ar/espinazo-4/p
2,499 Falda https://www.disco.com.ar/falda-2-2/p
3,199 Comun de Novillito https://www.disco.com.ar/carnaza-comun-de-novillito-3/p
3,599 Osobuco https://www.disco.com.ar/osobuco-de-novillito/p
3,699 Azotillo https://www.disco.com.ar/azotillo-3-2/p
Monday revised MEP:
Tuesday MEP:
Vince
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I do think things like food items the inflation has slowed down. People just stopped buying things so there is a limit how much they can charge. On larger ticket items as well you are starting to see layoffs because people stopped buying things. Although I would love to get laid off and get 80% of my pay and stay home!
Longvie suspende al 50% de sus trabajadores en dos plantas por la caída en las ventas
La empresa anunció que las suspensiones se darán a partír de hoy y hasta mediados de abril
www.lanacion.com.ar
StatusNomadicus
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here are some updated articles:
1. https://www.rebeccaandtheworld.com/money-in-argentina-for-travellers/
2. https://nomadicfire.com/how-to-western-union-argentina-blue-dollar
3. https://nomadcollectivemag.com/mone...cash-credit-western-union-and-exchange-rates/
you'll GoogleMap "Pago Facil" with its WU affiliation/link.
unless you're buying appliances like a Fridge or a TV, you'll be 95% fine using Visa/MC credit as a tourist.
welcome!
Betsy Ross
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Yes, WU is very convenient and you can instantly send from your mobile app on your phone and it will be ready almost instantly. You can see where the nearest location you are. Just keep in mind the very small locations sometimes run out of money. But the main Western Union offices always have money. Go early to avoid lines. Lately it isn't too busy. There is a large office in Palermo Soho on Armenia and Guatemala.
Have fun!
Vince
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Last minute trips are fun! I remember those before I had my kids. I would recommend downloading the WU app on your phone. It works very good. Keep in mind that usually they will give you your first transfer free so you may want to do it for a larger amount if you will use it all. It is instant. After you send it, it will be ready in just a few minutes.
Bobbie Burgers
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WU works like a charm. Rock solid and very quick.
StatusNomadicus
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Interesting about the Bitcoin Cash. Never heard of it before.
StatusNomadicus
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i've failed you! i try not to post very often on my cryptocurrency opinions, but i got some positive and negative responses for my posts about Bitcoin Cash. have you used any cryptocurrency ever, @Wally? https://www.expatsba.com/threads/cr...n-argentina-is-anyone-doing-it.1151/post-7012
i was the guy posting about wanting to buy a house/land/apartment with BCH here in Argentina. i want to be one of the first, no Fiat currency involved! @Wally follow KimDotcom on twitter if you want more info:
no spend data today for MEP research, but i noticed nothing changed (because it's a Catholic holiday today? because it's a super-long weekend in Argentina with Maundy/GoodFriday/Easter/Malvinas?)
Western Union 1071 all day
MEP official 1016 all day
real-world MEP is probably ~947
Isn't this guy Kim Dot Com a criminal? I probably wouldn't want to follow someone that has an extensive rap sheet for fraud and crime?
He rose to fame in Germany in the 1990s as a hacker and an Internet entrepreneur.[6] He was arrested in 1994 for trafficking in stolen phone calling card numbers. He was convicted on eleven charges of computer fraud, ten charges of data espionage and various other charges in 1998 that he served a two-year suspended sentence for.[6] In 2003, he was deported to Germany where he pleaded guilty to embezzlement in November 2003 and after five months in jail awaiting trial he received another 20 months suspended sentence.[7]
Kim Dotcom - Wikipedia
StatusNomadicus
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he's a criminal just like Julian Assange, Edward Snowden, and Ross Ulbricht are "criminals" (AKA went against the Deep State). depends what your politics are; do you think a guy like Kim Dotcom, who has never been in the USA in his life, and provided a free site for file storage (Cloud) called MegaUpload, should be imprisoned or killed because some people may have used his site for illegal activity?
it's the question of Apple unlocking an iPhone at the FBI's request - where do you personally view the 'line' of liberty versus federal government 'security'?
on CNN, yes KimDotcom is an evil caricature of a criminal. in my experience, him and Snowden have been fantastic at criticizing the expansion of the warfare-welfare state (in not just the USA, but everywhere in the West). Wikipedia and Google are so overwhelmingly corrupted by the federal government that i wouldn't trust any articles about political events. read the January 6th one for a laugh ... it makes it seem like there was a military coup with 20,000 militiamen murdering senators, instead of a group of flag-wavers walking within a rope line through open doors
Kim has documented his illegal persecution by the USA and New Zealand here: https://kim.com/scandal
and his privacy whitepaper is here: https://kim.com/whitepaper.pdf
he also has a funny video of the raid. they sent a helicopter SWAT team like he was some kind of drug lord. into his property where the gate was open and he was unarmed. for an internet "crime" lol.
@Wally if you've never used crypto before, make a BCH wallet from Bitcoin.com and post your QR code or public address here, and i'll send you a couple bucks! it's always cool seeing people use bitcoin for the first time...it works fast, basically free, and isn't able to be blocked by anyone as long as you can send a text message!
Thank you. I agree with you about some of these people but I think you have to draw the line somewhere. Ross Ulbricht should have gotten arrested and served some time but not 10 years. He would never do it again. I read some of his Tik Toks and they are depressing. I even donated some money to his prison lunch fund account.he's a criminal just like Julian Assange, Edward Snowden, and Ross Ulbricht are "criminals" (AKA went against the Deep State). depends what your politics are; do you think a guy like Kim Dotcom, who has never been in the USA in his life, and provided a free site for file storage (Cloud) called MegaUpload, should be imprisoned or killed because some people may have used his site for illegal activity?
it's the question of Apple unlocking an iPhone at the FBI's request - where do you personally view the 'line' of liberty versus federal government 'security'?
on CNN, yes KimDotcom is an evil caricature of a criminal. in my experience, him and Snowden have been fantastic at criticizing the expansion of the warfare-welfare state (in not just the USA, but everywhere in the West). Wikipedia and Google are so overwhelmingly corrupted by the federal government that i wouldn't trust any articles about political events. read the January 6th one for a laugh ... it makes it seem like there was a military coup with 20,000 militiamen murdering senators, instead of a group of flag-wavers walking within a rope line through open doors
Kim has documented his illegal persecution by the USA and New Zealand here: https://kim.com/scandal
and his privacy whitepaper is here: https://kim.com/whitepaper.pdf
he also has a funny video of the raid. they sent a helicopter SWAT team like he was some kind of drug lord. into his property where the gate was open and he was unarmed. for an internet "crime" lol.
@Wally if you've never used crypto before, make a BCH wallet from Bitcoin.com and post your QR code or public address here, and i'll send you a couple bucks! it's always cool seeing people use bitcoin for the first time...it works fast, basically free, and isn't able to be blocked by anyone as long as you can send a text message!
I owned some BTC but I will check out BCH. Thanks.
StatusNomadicus
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the line is the Constitution and the right of the people to know what our government is doing (illegally spying on Americans without proper warrants), where whistleblowers like Snowden are protected, British journalists like Assange aren't executed by the USA, and Ulbricht doesn't serve 2 life sentences for making a website
Fair enough points about Assange, and Snowden. But I don't group Ulbricht in the same bucket. He committed a crime and the government gave him a harsh sentence to dissuade anyone else to follow in his footsteps. I think that has mostly worked. After reading about Kim Dot Com he seems like he has a history of fraud. I just didn't understand why you are using him as an example to follow? Because of his technology background? I am just trying to learn.he's a criminal just like Julian Assange, Edward Snowden, and Ross Ulbricht are "criminals" (AKA went against the Deep State). depends what your politics are; do you think a guy like Kim Dotcom, who has never been in the USA in his life, and provided a free site for file storage (Cloud) called MegaUpload, should be imprisoned or killed because some people may have used his site for illegal activity?
it's the question of Apple unlocking an iPhone at the FBI's request - where do you personally view the 'line' of liberty versus federal government 'security'?
on CNN, yes KimDotcom is an evil caricature of a criminal. in my experience, him and Snowden have been fantastic at criticizing the expansion of the warfare-welfare state (in not just the USA, but everywhere in the West). Wikipedia and Google are so overwhelmingly corrupted by the federal government that i wouldn't trust any articles about political events. read the January 6th one for a laugh ... it makes it seem like there was a military coup with 20,000 militiamen murdering senators, instead of a group of flag-wavers walking within a rope line through open doors
Kim has documented his illegal persecution by the USA and New Zealand here: https://kim.com/scandal
and his privacy whitepaper is here: https://kim.com/whitepaper.pdf
he also has a funny video of the raid. they sent a helicopter SWAT team like he was some kind of drug lord. into his property where the gate was open and he was unarmed. for an internet "crime" lol.
@Wally if you've never used crypto before, make a BCH wallet from Bitcoin.com and post your QR code or public address here, and i'll send you a couple bucks! it's always cool seeing people use bitcoin for the first time...it works fast, basically free, and isn't able to be blocked by anyone as long as you can send a text message!
StatusNomadicus
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most of the concern-trolling i see about KimDotcom are that he was a hacker in his teens, and in his early life he was punished for, as the judge on the Wikipedia article says, "youthful foolishness."
i really don't care about people's personal lives, or some 'crimes' in the distant past. he's an older, married man now and is outspoken on his free speech and internet freedom ideas. if he was promoting identity theft, i would criticize those aspects. everything i see on his twitter is anti-war, anti-censorship, and pro-Free-Speech, so i judge him as a positive influence today.
i 'stole' thousands of dollars as a teen/20s/now in "Intellectual Property" by 'illegally' downloading books/movies/etc. - if i were a positive role-model for others, yet i disagreed with the copyright/intellectual property laws of the USA, would that make me a bad person?
the Pirate Bay website was operating out of Sweden, but massive USA companies like DreamWorks lobbied the Federal Gov't to prosecute the founders (if you haven't used Torrent technology, it's a decentralized network of file-sharing where the host, PirateBay, doesn't retain any files) - their response for years was hilarious:
in the end, the company's founders ended up doing up to a year in prison for a crime like Ulbricht's: making a website where people could trade information freely. our perspective on "Wrong" depends on what we've been programmed to believe - should adults be allowed to ignite plants and get high? should i be able to share movies with you, when neither of us has paid for the movies, if we weren't going to buy/rent them anyway? pro-Liberty proponents view Ulbricht, Dotcom, Snowden, and Assange as heroes because they espouse Libertarian ideals and were targeted by the US Federal government.
essentially: how did Ulbricht harm anyone? because if earlyretirement pays for this forum, and you and i use direct-messages to sell plants to each other, he would technically be as guilty as Ulbricht.
and how did Dotcom harm anyone? because he allowed people to share data with each other? because technically if i posted a PDF of intellectual property, and you viewed it, earlyretirement would be as guilty as Dotcom in hosting stolen information.
where do we draw the line? should earlyretirement spend his entire day reading our private messages on this forum and constantly scanning for any possible violations of State and Federal law?
Digital Nomad
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You make fair and valid points. I never used Silk Road before. It was before my time. Now in many states in the USA you can buy weed legal now. The US government is hypocritical in many ways.
Vero
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Totally agree. The reason the owner of Silk Road got so much jail time is so others don't start these kind of websites.
This is not a fair argument. You can't compare someone starting a website to share information with Silk Road where many illegal drugs and other illegal services was the main purpose of the website. It is apples and rocks trying to compare the two. The point is that Ulbricht started an illegal website to buy and sell illegal substances. He is an intelligent person. He knew the risks and now he is paying for it.
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