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What you get for dinner? What included in that $18? And how many drinks?
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StatusNomadicus
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and i did a test of the "Retirar Efectivo" thing at Carrefour, Dia, and FarmaCity and the cash-back doesn't work whatsoever with Visa or MasterCard, credit or debit, any amount from 5,000 to 70,000. so if someone can get cash-back to work in Buenos Aires, post here please!
and i did a test of the "Retirar Efectivo" thing at Carrefour, Dia, and FarmaCity and the cash-back doesn't work whatsoever with Visa or MasterCard, credit or debit, any amount from 5,000 to 70,000. so if someone can get cash-back to work in Buenos Aires, post here please!
I see that twitter post and got excited. It didn't work for me either.
earlyretirement
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FYI for those that have Apple Pay check out this life hack that someone on Twitter that I follow said he is getting for free cash advances on his credit card with cash back at some participating grocery stores and places.
Howard Stern
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I had no idea Apple Pay worked in Argentina!
earlyretirement
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I didn't know they worked with USA credit cards. It sounds like they have been in Argentina since 2002.
Apple Pay arrived in Argentina: how to pay with the iPhone and what advantages does it have
Customers from different banks in the country can now use the platform to make contactless payments with Apple devices
www.infobae.com
StatusNomadicus
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this JerzWay guy is giving me half-answers on Twitter. he doesn't seem fully shady, but things aren't making sense. i suspect we're going to find out he was using something other than a USA-based credit card to do this. i have tried this at 7 different places the past 3 days, with 4 different debit/credit cards. but i'll try again tomorrow with Apple Pay (but i rarely see that capability)
RN in BA
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Let us know if that works. I have never seen Apple Pay here but maybe I wasn't looking but usually in the USA they have a sign or logo for Apple Pay. I didn't notice it here but used my credit card many times. I don't think he is lying because I saw his post and he showed the picture from his statement.
Dazed & Confused
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I haven't seen Apple Pay but will be on the look out!
StatusNomadicus
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do it! but,
why don't you like Twitter? i didn't use it for the longest time, because it was a socialist-echo-chamber-circle-jerk like most of Reddit is, but i subscribed to X PremiumPlus a while back and it's amazing! i've wasted 15 bucks a month on video games and subscriptions i haven't used before; why not pay a little less than 15/mo and get real-time news, mostly-uncensored profiles, and an included AI called "Grok" to do some editing and other tasks for me? Elon Musk is a free-speech absolutist; if you believe in 'voting with your dollar' then i view it as a no-brainer. i stopped paying for coffees when out and about, even here in BsAs where they are only $2 on average, and i make them at home instead. i justify my X subscription that way. if you aren't following these ten X accounts, you're missing out!
1. https://twitter.com/KobeissiLetter
2. https://twitter.com/GRDecter
3. https://twitter.com/zerohedge
4. https://twitter.com/simonateba
5. https://twitter.com/MrBeast
6. https://twitter.com/thecoastguy
7. https://twitter.com/SystemUpdate_
8. https://twitter.com/ZubyMusic
9. milei official https://twitter.com/JMilei
10. milei's spokesperson account https://twitter.com/OPEArg
here's an initial write-up of ApplePay and cash-back in BsAs, @Swowbird
Bride to Be
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Thanks! Will check out Twitter. I honestly thought they went out of business.
Swowbird
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Because the last time I was using it, it was a socialist-echo-chamber-circle-jerk.
They didn't but Elon Musk is running it into the ground so they could go out of business soon. Elon Musk reminds me of Javier Milei. Saying and doing all kinds of crazy ass things.
StatusNomadicus
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899 still for the real-world MEP credit card rate on Xmas Eve...yes, i walked 45 minutes to find you guys ANY sort of business that would be open past 5pm on christmas eve....it's literally impossible in Buenos Aires, despite being a metro area of 13 million people! crazy. i found one fancy restaurant that refused to serve me even though it was open and cooking food for many families (it appeared to be gringo-exclusion, since there were 20% tables open, and they wouldn't allow me to sit on the completely empty patio, and the Host wouldn't answer questions other than 'we are full' which was really weird). then i found a Kiosk that had hot dogs or panchos that were, well, interesting. Argentina hot dogs are like really long gas-station hot dogs, but they put tiny shoestring fries on top. first time for me, so i had to try them (and i didn't want to cook). then, i found another Kiosk closer to my Airbnb with cold beer pint cans for only 850 Pesos, which i thought was a good price for a holiday and past 10pm!
Elon Musk spent $44 BILLION to risk bringing it back from the brink of bankruptcy, and it was such an unprofitable model that it was only really worth about 15 billion, but he's now trying a subscription model and including an AI assistant called Grok. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/twitter-worth-third-musks-purchase-price-says-stakeholder-fidelity
Musk also fired most of the employees, and the company is running better than before
he removed 90% of the censorship, and now it's the best source of real-world news!
you really should try X/Twitter and see how great it works. and if you want real-time Argentina analysis, this profile is awesome: https://twitter.com/BowTiedMara
the link above showed 44 billion was the price, yet with all the fake accounts and poor accounting, twitter really only was worth 15 billion (29 billion of fluff, or about 66% trash). other than your "opinion" from mainstream news (CNN or MSNBC? or maybe Fox?), how could you possibly know if Musk is:
1. operating as majority-owner poorly.
2. causing X/twitter to be closing-down soon.
3. like Milei.
4. saying/doing 'crazy' things.
...exactly? here's why you need to use X instead of watching the TV Man, because you look dumb parroting the mainstream propaganda. remember that X/twitter is a direct competitor and threat the the dying existing media (at an all-time low for viewership as they promote war and are funded by Pfizer et. al)
1. let me guess, you saw some government shill on Fox 'news' saying that charging a subscription for premium twitter/X content meant 'free speech is lost!' or something?
www.foxbusiness.com
...welp, Free Speech has nothing to do with social media, buddy. free speech is First Amendment stuff, and only applies to when the federal government/Congress is limited by trying to stop a citizen's speech. not Twitter or anything else. also, have you even ever tried to make an X account and post something? this Fox News clown didn't, before writing a moronic article. you can make a twitter account for free and post; i just did with www.x.com/ArgentinaMEP and it was fast, free, and works great for getting info to anyone who needs it. the subscription platform is for people who want to support Musk, or want the advanced monetization features for ad revenue and the new Artificial Intelligence feature, "Grok"
here's how Grok describes Free Speech when i ask him to define it for someone who thinks X limits free speech by allowing people to pay for more features:
"@grok - The introduction of a subscription model on X (formerly Twitter) has sparked discussions about its potential impact on free speech. On one hand, the subscription model could help the platform maintain financial stability and reduce its reliance on advertising revenue. This, in turn, could prevent advertisers from exerting undue influence on the platform's content moderation policies, which might otherwise limit free speech.On the other hand, critics argue that a subscription model could create a barrier to entry for some users, as not everyone may be able or willing to pay for access to the platform. This could lead to a situation where only those who can afford to pay have a voice on the platform, potentially limiting the diversity of perspectives and opinions. However, it is important to note that the subscription model is not mandatory for existing users, and the basic features of the platform will still be available for free. This means that the majority of users will not be directly affected by the introduction of the subscription model. Ultimately, the impact of X's subscription model on free speech will depend on how it is implemented and how users respond to it. It is essential for X to strike a balance between maintaining financial stability and ensuring that the platform remains accessible to as many people as possible."
so how come idiot Fox News 'journalist' Chris Pandolfo couldn't be bothered to add any of that information? (and there are myriad articles exactly the same; i'm not claiming that's the one you saw). my guess is he was directed to write it, and he's a scumbag mainstream journalist that operates as the government's propaganda voice to make sure the Empire stays in power. so stop feeding it! i'm happy to pay $15/month for PremiumPlus because i don't want to see advertisements, and i like having Grok edit my writing and look stuff up for me (it's still in Beta)
2. X is about to be profitable after 17 years of losing money https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2023/12/x-is-profitable-or-nearly-profitable.html
CEO (you know Musk isn't the CEO anymore, right? so he doesn't do day-to-day stuff) says early 2024 is likely the first time X will be profitablehttps://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/x-ceo-linda-yaccarino-platform-track-return-profit/695137/
so #1 he's not running it into the ground or censoring, and #2 it's actually going to make money and not go out of business, to recapitulate.
3. Milei wants to un-shackle Argentina from its economic self-imposed quagmire. Elon wants free speech and uncensored news to the masses. so yes, he's like Milei in that he's not a Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, or Jeff Epstein figure that aims to dominate others and destroy our civilization...agreed. what was your argument, exactly?
4. crazy-ass things. ummm, like wanting X and Argentina not to spiral more in debt? ooooookay, that's why the majority of Argentina voted for Milei. and why StarLink is now about to be available in rural Argentina: Musk wants global access for people who have no ethernet or cellular service, and Milei's cabinet just removed all the bureaucracy to prevent StarLink https://www.expatsba.com/threads/lo...lable-to-all-of-argentina-soon.648/#post-3671
Musk lands spaceships on boats and is working on taking humans to colonize Mars, and he's a successful business owner that believes humanity can thrive.
Milei is a musician, PhD economist of Austrian/libertarian/Sowell economics, professor, and author. what exactly is crazy-ass about what he's doing? deleting repressive laws that caused the Paris of South America to be one of the poorest and most backwards economies in the world, next to Venezuela? what is crazy is that the previous Peronist era was able to destroy such a paradise so quickly. any comment on how crazy-ass that was?
it was! that's why Twitter was 'for sale' last year.
Elon Musk spent $44 BILLION to risk bringing it back from the brink of bankruptcy, and it was such an unprofitable model that it was only really worth about 15 billion, but he's now trying a subscription model and including an AI assistant called Grok. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/twitter-worth-third-musks-purchase-price-says-stakeholder-fidelity
Musk also fired most of the employees, and the company is running better than before
he removed 90% of the censorship, and now it's the best source of real-world news!you really should try X/Twitter and see how great it works. and if you want real-time Argentina analysis, this profile is awesome: https://twitter.com/BowTiedMara
it was!!! i never used it because it was worse than Reddit for being 95% commie. if you want some great libertarian profiles to follow, reply here and i'll post my top 10 : ) here's an analysis of just how much twitter was operating as a propaganda arm of the USA deep state https://www.zerohedge.com/political/elon-musk-twitter-was-completely-controlled-far-left
***citation needed. what stupid things to say, based on nothing but your dumb opinion. i'll add you to my small list of Muted people, so my forum scrolling isn't filled with unintelligent dross. but for now, to reject your claims:
the link above showed 44 billion was the price, yet with all the fake accounts and poor accounting, twitter really only was worth 15 billion (29 billion of fluff, or about 66% trash). other than your "opinion" from mainstream news (CNN or MSNBC? or maybe Fox?), how could you possibly know if Musk is:
1. operating as majority-owner poorly.
2. causing X/twitter to be closing-down soon.
3. like Milei.
4. saying/doing 'crazy' things.
...exactly? here's why you need to use X instead of watching the TV Man, because you look dumb parroting the mainstream propaganda. remember that X/twitter is a direct competitor and threat the the dying existing media (at an all-time low for viewership as they promote war and are funded by Pfizer et. al)
1. let me guess, you saw some government shill on Fox 'news' saying that charging a subscription for premium twitter/X content meant 'free speech is lost!' or something?
Elon Musk's new X pricing plan would mean free speech isn't quite free
Elon Musk said Monday that X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, would begin charging users a fee to use the website in an effort to make it more difficult to set up bot accounts.
here's how Grok describes Free Speech when i ask him to define it for someone who thinks X limits free speech by allowing people to pay for more features:
"@grok - The introduction of a subscription model on X (formerly Twitter) has sparked discussions about its potential impact on free speech. On one hand, the subscription model could help the platform maintain financial stability and reduce its reliance on advertising revenue. This, in turn, could prevent advertisers from exerting undue influence on the platform's content moderation policies, which might otherwise limit free speech.On the other hand, critics argue that a subscription model could create a barrier to entry for some users, as not everyone may be able or willing to pay for access to the platform. This could lead to a situation where only those who can afford to pay have a voice on the platform, potentially limiting the diversity of perspectives and opinions. However, it is important to note that the subscription model is not mandatory for existing users, and the basic features of the platform will still be available for free. This means that the majority of users will not be directly affected by the introduction of the subscription model. Ultimately, the impact of X's subscription model on free speech will depend on how it is implemented and how users respond to it. It is essential for X to strike a balance between maintaining financial stability and ensuring that the platform remains accessible to as many people as possible."
so how come idiot Fox News 'journalist' Chris Pandolfo couldn't be bothered to add any of that information? (and there are myriad articles exactly the same; i'm not claiming that's the one you saw). my guess is he was directed to write it, and he's a scumbag mainstream journalist that operates as the government's propaganda voice to make sure the Empire stays in power. so stop feeding it! i'm happy to pay $15/month for PremiumPlus because i don't want to see advertisements, and i like having Grok edit my writing and look stuff up for me (it's still in Beta)
2. X is about to be profitable after 17 years of losing money https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2023/12/x-is-profitable-or-nearly-profitable.html
CEO (you know Musk isn't the CEO anymore, right? so he doesn't do day-to-day stuff) says early 2024 is likely the first time X will be profitablehttps://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/x-ceo-linda-yaccarino-platform-track-return-profit/695137/
so #1 he's not running it into the ground or censoring, and #2 it's actually going to make money and not go out of business, to recapitulate.
3. Milei wants to un-shackle Argentina from its economic self-imposed quagmire. Elon wants free speech and uncensored news to the masses. so yes, he's like Milei in that he's not a Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, or Jeff Epstein figure that aims to dominate others and destroy our civilization...agreed. what was your argument, exactly?
4. crazy-ass things. ummm, like wanting X and Argentina not to spiral more in debt? ooooookay, that's why the majority of Argentina voted for Milei. and why StarLink is now about to be available in rural Argentina: Musk wants global access for people who have no ethernet or cellular service, and Milei's cabinet just removed all the bureaucracy to prevent StarLink https://www.expatsba.com/threads/lo...lable-to-all-of-argentina-soon.648/#post-3671
Musk lands spaceships on boats and is working on taking humans to colonize Mars, and he's a successful business owner that believes humanity can thrive.
Milei is a musician, PhD economist of Austrian/libertarian/Sowell economics, professor, and author. what exactly is crazy-ass about what he's doing? deleting repressive laws that caused the Paris of South America to be one of the poorest and most backwards economies in the world, next to Venezuela? what is crazy is that the previous Peronist era was able to destroy such a paradise so quickly. any comment on how crazy-ass that was?
Blah blah blah. Your posts and Elon's too sound like a Republican-echo-chamber-circle-jerk.899 still for the real-world MEP credit card rate on Xmas Eve...yes, i walked 45 minutes to find you guys ANY sort of business that would be open past 5pm on christmas eve....it's literally impossible in Buenos Aires, despite being a metro area of 13 million people! crazy. i found one fancy restaurant that refused to serve me even though it was open and cooking food for many families (it appeared to be gringo-exclusion, since there were 20% tables open, and they wouldn't allow me to sit on the completely empty patio, and the Host wouldn't answer questions other than 'we are full' which was really weird). then i found a Kiosk that had hot dogs or panchos that were, well, interesting. Argentina hot dogs are like really long gas-station hot dogs, but they put tiny shoestring fries on top. first time for me, so i had to try them (and i didn't want to cook). then, i found another Kiosk closer to my Airbnb with cold beer pint cans for only 850 Pesos, which i thought was a good price for a holiday and past 10pm!
it was! that's why Twitter was 'for sale' last year.
Elon Musk spent $44 BILLION to risk bringing it back from the brink of bankruptcy, and it was such an unprofitable model that it was only really worth about 15 billion, but he's now trying a subscription model and including an AI assistant called Grok. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/twitter-worth-third-musks-purchase-price-says-stakeholder-fidelity
Musk also fired most of the employees, and the company is running better than before
you really should try X/Twitter and see how great it works. and if you want real-time Argentina analysis, this profile is awesome: https://twitter.com/BowTiedMara
it was!!! i never used it because it was worse than Reddit for being 95% commie. if you want some great libertarian profiles to follow, reply here and i'll post my top 10 : ) here's an analysis of just how much twitter was operating as a propaganda arm of the USA deep state https://www.zerohedge.com/political/elon-musk-twitter-was-completely-controlled-far-left
***citation needed. what stupid things to say, based on nothing but your dumb opinion. i'll add you to my small list of Muted people, so my forum scrolling isn't filled with unintelligent dross. but for now, to reject your claims:
the link above showed 44 billion was the price, yet with all the fake accounts and poor accounting, twitter really only was worth 15 billion (29 billion of fluff, or about 66% trash). other than your "opinion" from mainstream news (CNN or MSNBC? or maybe Fox?), how could you possibly know if Musk is:
1. operating as majority-owner poorly.
2. causing X/twitter to be closing-down soon.
3. like Milei.
4. saying/doing 'crazy' things.
...exactly? here's why you need to use X instead of watching the TV Man, because you look dumb parroting the mainstream propaganda. remember that X/twitter is a direct competitor and threat the the dying existing media (at an all-time low for viewership as they promote war and are funded by Pfizer et. al)
1. let me guess, you saw some government shill on Fox 'news' saying that charging a subscription for premium twitter/X content meant 'free speech is lost!' or something?...welp, Free Speech has nothing to do with social media, buddy. free speech is First Amendment stuff, and only applies to when the federal government/Congress is limited by trying to stop a citizen's speech. not Twitter or anything else. also, have you even ever tried to make an X account and post something? this Fox News clown didn't, before writing a moronic article. you can make a twitter account for free and post; i just did with www.x.com/ArgentinaMEP and it was fast, free, and works great for getting info to anyone who needs it. the subscription platform is for people who want to support Musk, or want the advanced monetization features for ad revenue and the new Artificial Intelligence feature, "Grok"Elon Musk's new X pricing plan would mean free speech isn't quite free
Elon Musk said Monday that X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, would begin charging users a fee to use the website in an effort to make it more difficult to set up bot accounts.
here's how Grok describes Free Speech when i ask him to define it for someone who thinks X limits free speech by allowing people to pay for more features:
"@grok - The introduction of a subscription model on X (formerly Twitter) has sparked discussions about its potential impact on free speech. On one hand, the subscription model could help the platform maintain financial stability and reduce its reliance on advertising revenue. This, in turn, could prevent advertisers from exerting undue influence on the platform's content moderation policies, which might otherwise limit free speech.On the other hand, critics argue that a subscription model could create a barrier to entry for some users, as not everyone may be able or willing to pay for access to the platform. This could lead to a situation where only those who can afford to pay have a voice on the platform, potentially limiting the diversity of perspectives and opinions. However, it is important to note that the subscription model is not mandatory for existing users, and the basic features of the platform will still be available for free. This means that the majority of users will not be directly affected by the introduction of the subscription model. Ultimately, the impact of X's subscription model on free speech will depend on how it is implemented and how users respond to it. It is essential for X to strike a balance between maintaining financial stability and ensuring that the platform remains accessible to as many people as possible."
so how come idiot Fox News 'journalist' Chris Pandolfo couldn't be bothered to add any of that information? (and there are myriad articles exactly the same; i'm not claiming that's the one you saw). my guess is he was directed to write it, and he's a scumbag mainstream journalist that operates as the government's propaganda voice to make sure the Empire stays in power. so stop feeding it! i'm happy to pay $15/month for PremiumPlus because i don't want to see advertisements, and i like having Grok edit my writing and look stuff up for me (it's still in Beta)
2. X is about to be profitable after 17 years of losing money https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2023/12/x-is-profitable-or-nearly-profitable.html
CEO (you know Musk isn't the CEO anymore, right? so he doesn't do day-to-day stuff) says early 2024 is likely the first time X will be profitablehttps://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/x-ceo-linda-yaccarino-platform-track-return-profit/695137/
so #1 he's not running it into the ground or censoring, and #2 it's actually going to make money and not go out of business, to recapitulate.
3. Milei wants to un-shackle Argentina from its economic self-imposed quagmire. Elon wants free speech and uncensored news to the masses. so yes, he's like Milei in that he's not a Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, or Jeff Epstein figure that aims to dominate others and destroy our civilization...agreed. what was your argument, exactly?
4. crazy-ass things. ummm, like wanting X and Argentina not to spiral more in debt? ooooookay, that's why the majority of Argentina voted for Milei. and why StarLink is now about to be available in rural Argentina: Musk wants global access for people who have no ethernet or cellular service, and Milei's cabinet just removed all the bureaucracy to prevent StarLink https://www.expatsba.com/threads/lo...lable-to-all-of-argentina-soon.648/#post-3671
Musk lands spaceships on boats and is working on taking humans to colonize Mars, and he's a successful business owner that believes humanity can thrive.
Milei is a musician, PhD economist of Austrian/libertarian/Sowell economics, professor, and author. what exactly is crazy-ass about what he's doing? deleting repressive laws that caused the Paris of South America to be one of the poorest and most backwards economies in the world, next to Venezuela? what is crazy is that the previous Peronist era was able to destroy such a paradise so quickly. any comment on how crazy-ass that was?
So you admit Elon is dumb paying $44 BILLION for a company worth $15 Billion.
Your posts are too long. When you have to post so long to make your point it means you're wrong.
StatusNomadicus
Well-known member
never voted republican in my life, almost 40 years old, congrats on writing the dumbest posts on this forum today!
your reading comprehension matches your ability to think about anything complex, other than 'other side bad!' and 'my tribe good!'
obviously this is true, and it makes sense because all great books like War and Peace are just little 50-page novellas. and PhD dissertations are usually a quick read with tea, when original research is being published. thanks for your wisdom! continue being an NPC and listening to the TV; life's way too complicated for you
Your posts my expat friend are NO War and Peace or a PhD dissertation. It joke.
Fingerless
Active member
Thanks for going out on Xmas Eve to check the rates. You the man!
Old Geezer
Member
Thanks for posting here on the MEP rate for your actual charges. I have found it is always off from the various websites. I don't read X so thanks for posting here.
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