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Interesting article that I read today on Milei and Mersosur.



What Milei Means for Mercosur​


The new Argentine president pledged to dissolve the trading bloc. But what if he ends up saving it?​

By Max Klaver, a journalist based in Buenos Aires. His writing has appeared in the Christian Science Monitor, the Buenos Aires Herald, and Foreign Brief.

DECEMBER 18, 2023,

Founded 32 years ago, the Southern Common Market, or Mercosur—a customs union and free trade area consisting of Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Paraguay, and now Bolivia—has for some time been stagnant, unable to advance on major policy initiatives.
Then came Argentine presidential candidate Javier Milei. The libertarian, who was inaugurated as Argentina’s president on Dec. 10, declared in August that Mercosur was “defective” and harmful to Argentina. He pledged to withdraw the country and dissolve the bloc.

What a candidate says in the campaign is one thing. “But once you have the responsibility of running the country,” said Juan Cruz Díaz, a managing director of Cefeidas Group, a Buenos Aires-based political risk consultancy, “there are many other factors that you need to consider.” Can Milei make good on his promise to leave Mercosur? And what would happen if he did?

FOR ARGENTINA, LATIN AMERICA’S THIRD-LARGEST ECONOMY, leaving Mercosur would come with destabilizing political and economic costs. Perhaps that was why, a week after Milei’s election victory in November, his soon-to-be foreign minister, Diana Mondino, exhibited a stark change in tone. While visiting Brazil, she reportedly professed to her Brazilian counterparts Argentina’s desire to be a part of a “bigger, improved Mercosur.”

At its founding, Mercosur had a mission to integrate its member states both with one another and with the world. The bloc sought to harness the collective negotiating power of its member states, giving them greater leverage in trade negotiations with external actors. Mercosur also largely eliminated import and export tariffs on trade among its constituent countries. That, combined with its common external tariff designed to create a level internal playing field, has deepened trade among Mercosur’s member states.


As a result of Mercosur, 14 percent of Argentine exports go to Brazil, making it Argentina’s largest export market by a comfortable margin. (China, at 9 percent, is a distant second.) Losing competitive, tariff-free access to Brazil would be devastating for the Argentine economy.

Local industries, such as steel, would struggle to survive on the size of Argentina’s internal market alone. The auto sector, which makes up roughly 10 percent of Argentina’s exports, would be cut off from its principal market, Brazil, in which it faces little competition. Many of the sector’s companies would fold. Unemployment, particularly in Argentina’s more industrialized urban areas, would spike.

Governability is already a concern for the incoming administration. Milei’s allies do not have a majority in either the upper or lower house of Argentina’s Congress. His Liberty Advances coalition controls no provincial governorships. A marked uptick in unemployment would not help matters. Inflation exceeds 160 percent annually, and drastic fiscal and monetary changes—such as the recent decision to devalue the Argentine peso by a record 54 percent and the slashing of transport and utilities subsidies—abound. All this, at a moment when the government’s legislative initiatives will be slow-going. At least for now, it looks as if leaving Mercosur is a political non-starter.


And that’s fortunate for Mercosur. “There’s no Mercosur without Argentina or Brazil,” Cruz Díaz said. Yet persistent frustrations remain—and not just Milei’s or in Argentina. All of Mercosur’s member states are, in one way or another, dissatisfied with one another and with the bloc on the whole.

Uruguay has sparred repeatedly with Brazil and Argentina over flexibilization—that is, allowing countries, particularly the two smaller states, Uruguay and Paraguay, to strike their own trade deals with non-Mercosur members. While proponents argue that loosening the bloc’s restrictions would allow member states to pursue beneficial trade deals, opponents contend that it would weaken Mercosur’s unity (and therefore its leverage in trade negotiations) and could create unfair intra-bloc competition.

Uruguay—a country whose internal market is a fraction of the size of Argentina’s and Brazil’s—is keen to strike out on its own to unilaterally forge trade deals and gain access to foreign markets. Uruguay argues that Mercosur’s rigid, consensus-based decision-making process is overly burdensome for its small economy, which is eager to further integrate with the world. Uruguayan President Luis Lacalle Pou said in March that his country can no longer remain “hostage to Mercosur’s immobility.” Lacalle Pou’s was a stark rebuke of the bloc’s apparent inability to bridge policy disagreements among its members.
 
Does anyone know or heard anything about if Mersosur countries can still come and go to University free in Argentina? I haven't seen anything else about this issue in the papers.
From what my friends tell me, Milei wants foreigners including Mersosur residents to pay for public education and also health care expenses. I believe they get those free now. This seems reasonable to me. Argentina is far too poor to pay for any of this. I don't believe anyone that is not paying taxes to Argentina probably should except free education and free healthcare if they go to a public hospital.

I'm not 100% on this but this is what my friends that are living there say. Some of them are Mercosur students and worry about these cuts. I don't believe anything is planned for 2024.
 
i haven't seen anything. and @BowTiedMara's last content was just analyzing the cost



on similar news, per class per semester costs of University of Belgrano are $1,880 USD, so if you want to take 3 classes, 2x a year, it is at least $11,280 USD :O
 
i haven't seen anything. and @BowTiedMara's last content was just analyzing the cost



on similar news, per class per semester costs of University of Belgrano are $1,880 USD, so if you want to take 3 classes, 2x a year, it is at least $11,280 USD :O

I have agreed with Bowtied Mara on everything. Most of the stuff on his blog I've been saying privately to friends and clients for the past 2 decades. This is another topic I agree with him. It simply makes NO sense for a poorer nation like Argentina to subsidize Universities for all of Mercosur nations. My wife is originally from Colombia and I can tell you LOTS of her cousins and their friends have come to study in Buenos Aires for free.

I'm not sure about Medical school. I think they pay a very SMALL fee. But her cousin is in Medical School now at UBA paying far less than she would in Colombia.
 
The future of Mercosur seems shakier than ever.

Yes, President Milei has just threatened to leave Mercosur.

 
President Javier Milei has made clear his intention to push for a free trade agreement (FTA) with the United States during 2025, even if it means straining or leaving Mercosur. This stance represents a significant shift in Argentina's foreign policy and has generated controversy both nationally and regionally.Milei's Position on MercosurMilei has harshly criticized Mercosur, calling it a "prison" and an "obstacle to the progress of Argentines". In his speech during the Mercosur Summit in December 2024, the Argentine president argued that the bloc:

-Has harmed its members instead of promoting free trade and prosperity

-Has become a brake on the economic development of member countries

-Has closed "countless trade routes" due to the Common External Tariff

President Milei proposes to make Mercosur's rules more flexible to allow member countries to negotiate bilateral trade agreements with third countries. This would go against the Treaty of Asunción, which prevents full members of the bloc from negotiating trade agreements independently.Objective of the FTA with the United StatesMilei has reiterated that his "objective" is to negotiate a free trade agreement between Argentina and the United States. The president sees this agreement as an opportunity to:

-Access a market of 300 million consumers with high purchasing power
-Accelerate Argentine exports, especially in services, energy, minerals, and processed foods
-Attract investments and modernize the Argentine economy

Possible Consequences

-The pursuit of an FTA with the United States outside of Mercosur could have serious implications:

-Mercosur breakup: Analysts warn that this initiative could lead to a crisis in the regional bloc and even its rupture.

-Diplomatic tensions: Milei's stance has already generated frictions with other Mercosur members, especially Brazil.

-Legal challenges: A bilateral agreement with the United States would violate current Mercosur rules, which could lead to legal disputes.

-Uncertain economic impact: Some experts question the economic complementarity between Argentina and the United States, and warn about possible risks for local industries.

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Looks like Milei will either negotiate a new deal for Mercosur or exit out of it.

Yep I read this too that makes it sounds like he wants to leave.

 
Yep I read this too that makes it sounds like he wants to leave.

Well leaving Mercosur isn't as easy as it sounds. They probably need to renegotiate certain aspects of it like allowing member nations to allow people to move here and get free services, education, etc. But as you can see with the tariff talks between the USA/Canada/Mexico they can cause some huge uncertainty.

Good article that touches upon some aspects of this.

 
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