Every day with the weak blue dollar and getting weaker, Argentina gets more and more expensive. In Europe it is very inexpensive in many cities in Spain. It's cheaper in Spain vs. Argentina.
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$1496 to 1998 USD per month in March, yep: https://www.airbnb.com/s/Barcelona-...e&room_types[]=Entire home/apt&price_max=2056Barcelona
Barcelona and Madrid are very expensive for nice apartment rentals in the city center. But I agree with Larry that you can dine out very affordable in many parts of Spain. But accommodations are definitely more expensive there. My family lives there.$1496 to 1998 USD per month in March, yep: https://www.airbnb.com/s/Barcelona--Spain/homes?tab_id=home_tab&refinement_paths[]=/homes&flexible_trip_lengths[]=one_week&monthly_start_date=2024-03-01&monthly_length=3&monthly_end_date=2024-06-01&price_filter_input_type=1&channel=EXPLORE&query=Barcelona, Spain&place_id=ChIJ5TCOcRaYpBIRCmZHTz37sEQ&date_picker_type=calendar&checkin=2024-03-01&checkout=2024-03-31&adults=1&source=structured_search_input_header&search_type=filter_change&price_filter_num_nights=30&ne_lat=41.43139333879556&ne_lng=2.240807594396017&sw_lat=41.355688644885525&sw_lng=2.143288322383029&zoom=12.769769813440751&zoom_level=12&search_by_map=true&room_types[]=Entire home/apt&price_max=2056
@Larry is a well-known liar around this forum, @HannibalLector - best bet is to mute him.
$482-531 USD for apartments in CABA, same filters:Airbnb | Buenos Aires Province - Vacation Rentals & Places to Stay - Argentina
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of course you do, you're both local Peronists on an Expat forum. do you realize you can say "you can dine out very affordable in many parts of [any country]"?I agree with Larry that you can dine out very affordable in many parts of Spain
1000-1500 USD more expensive per month according to my links, or 300% more expensive.accommodations are definitely more expensive there
like what? i've been here, and move around a lot more than you, for over 3 months now, and i say you're full of sh*t and went to touristy places. do you know what touristy places cost in Phoenix? Chicago? Los Angeles? NYC? Zurich? Stockholm? give numbers, or non of this is helpful to anyone on this forum.All the places we went I did not think prices were too affordable
Cheaper than the USA in all places other than Don Julio and La Cabrera, is what you meant, right?Cheaper than the USA to be sure in some places
i challenge you to post one single link to a menu where an Argentine restaurant is more expensive than a comparable USA restaurant. i'll wait @fetch roverBut some restaurants were more than the USA
no, you didn't. housing is 3x more expensive, and (i haven't been to Barcelona/Madrid/Basque since 2016 but...) all the results here say food is more expensive than in BsAs: https://www.google.com/search?q=cost+of+dinner+in+Spain+2024Larry is right we spent far less in Spain vs. Argentina
the fact that you went to Don Julio means you are the top 5% of tourists in Argentina. you have a very posh life, and you should appreciate how you are the 0.1% of the world population, financially. i have tons of cryptocurrency and am retired early, and i saw the $100 price of Don Julio and said "nope, too expensive" - so even i am in a tier below you, and i'm not exactly hurting on money. you can't possibly know the realities of the economies of Argentina and the USA if you're the wife of a $300k+ USD breadwinner husband - you're just too sheltered from everyday life.Our most expensive meal was at a restaurant called Don Julio and it was quite expensive. Very good but we went with my family and a few of my husband's co-workers and their family and I was shocked with how expensive the meal was.
again, you went to the creme de la creme of restaurants, in the most-expensive and chic area of Argentina. of course you paid a premium. did you ever sit outside at a regular neighborhood parilla and order some bife chorizo and have to say "no, gracias" to street beggars? this is what normal people do. what was the cheapest place you ate at? please post a link.We went to several other beautiful restaurants in Palermo but I wouldn't call them cheap.
I am not sure what is going on. I was just posting on my experiences. I did mention we went to touristy places to eat and it was my first trip. I was expecting it to be very inexpensive in all places. It was in many places but many meals we went to were pricey for the 4 of us. We went to Don Julio, Chila, Osaka, SottoVoce, Fogon Asado, A Fuego Fuerte, Aramburu, Cabana Las Lilas, Elena, El Preferido, La Mar and a few other places that I can't remember the names. These places were recommended by my husband's company or my husband visited when he lived here before.of course you do, you're both local Peronists on an Expat forum. do you realize you can say "you can dine out very affordable in many parts of [any country]"?
no sh*t, Sherlock. there are cheap places to eat everywhere in the world, and expensive ones. the overall ratio and averages say otherwise, though. people on this forum are not going to go to rural Basque Country and find deals on dinner. so it's irrelevant; the cities in Western Europe are overwhelmingly more expensive than Argentina, and it's crazy anyone has to point that out.
awaiting your response. this isn't meant to be hateful, but i think you have blinders on...like, really bad.
I am glad you had an enjoyable trip. There is something for everyone in Buenos Aires. All of those restaurants are very nice. Probably the nicest restaurants in Buenos Aires. I have been to a few of them and as you mention, they aren't cheap. You can spend as much in them than American restaurants. But they aren't the norm on pricing. Same thing with your hotel you stayed at. The Park Hyatt is very nice in the nicest neighborhood in the city.I am not sure what is going on. I was just posting on my experiences. I did mention we went to touristy places to eat and it was my first trip. I was expecting it to be very inexpensive in all places. It was in many places but many meals we went to were pricey for the 4 of us. We went to Don Julio, Chila, Osaka, SottoVoce, Fogon Asado, A Fuego Fuerte, Aramburu, Cabana Las Lilas, Elena, El Preferido, La Mar and a few other places that I can't remember the names. These places were recommended by my husband's company or my husband visited when he lived here before.
I am not claiming to be an expert on dining in Buenos Aires. And I am not saying it is more expensive than the USA. I am only stating the facts that some of these places were not as affordable as I believed they would be. I am not stating that you can't dine out in BA for affordable prices either. I am not sure the reason for hostility as I am just stating my opinion on prices at the places we dined out at.
One thing that we found much cheaper vs. the USA and other places we have visited is high quality wines. They were much cheaper in Buenos Aires vs. other places we have visited. Street food or simple food like empanadas and such were very cheap. I am not arguing that Buenos Aires is not an affordable place as many things were very affordable. It was very affordable getting around town in Ubers. I don't remember ever paying less to get around a major city vs. Buenos Aires.
Buenos Aires was a very nice city and I hope my posts don't persuade people not to visit. I admit we stayed in a very nice hotel and dined out at nice restaurants. I believe most tourists will have a great time and there were many restaurants that I am sure are available at all price levels.
Indeed many of the restaurants of Buenos Aires have raised their prices to match or rival American restaurants. Typical bodegons are getting more and more expensive these days. Go into places like El Preferido that were decently priced and they are sky high now for the same exact food as before. I am not saying all of Buenos Aires restaurants are all expensive but the trend is not our friend in many nice places.I am not sure what is going on. I was just posting on my experiences. I did mention we went to touristy places to eat and it was my first trip. I was expecting it to be very inexpensive in all places. It was in many places but many meals we went to were pricey for the 4 of us. We went to Don Julio, Chila, Osaka, SottoVoce, Fogon Asado, A Fuego Fuerte, Aramburu, Cabana Las Lilas, Elena, El Preferido, La Mar and a few other places that I can't remember the names. These places were recommended by my husband's company or my husband visited when he lived here before.
I am not claiming to be an expert on dining in Buenos Aires. And I am not saying it is more expensive than the USA. I am only stating the facts that some of these places were not as affordable as I believed they would be. I am not stating that you can't dine out in BA for affordable prices either. I am not sure the reason for hostility as I am just stating my opinion on prices at the places we dined out at.
One thing that we found much cheaper vs. the USA and other places we have visited is high quality wines. They were much cheaper in Buenos Aires vs. other places we have visited. Street food or simple food like empanadas and such were very cheap. I am not arguing that Buenos Aires is not an affordable place as many things were very affordable. It was very affordable getting around town in Ubers. I don't remember ever paying less to get around a major city vs. Buenos Aires.
Buenos Aires was a very nice city and I hope my posts don't persuade people not to visit. I admit we stayed in a very nice hotel and dined out at nice restaurants. I believe most tourists will have a great time and there were many restaurants that I am sure are available at all price levels.
This is absolutely correct. These restaurants that the OP mentions are the cream of the crop restaurants in Buenos Aires. We have dined at all of these restaurants many times and they are more expensive vs. other local options. Some of them are mentioned in Michelin Guidebooks. They are definitely wonderful restaurants but also on the more expensive side. Same with the Park Hyatt hotel. It is one of the best hotels in Buenos Aires. Especially the rooms on the Avenida Alvear side.I am glad you had an enjoyable trip. There is something for everyone in Buenos Aires. All of those restaurants are very nice. Probably the nicest restaurants in Buenos Aires. I have been to a few of them and as you mention, they aren't cheap. You can spend as much in them than American restaurants. But they aren't the norm on pricing. Same thing with your hotel you stayed at. The Park Hyatt is very nice in the nicest neighborhood in the city.
Exactly correct. Buenos Aires has something for everyone just like most major cities around the world. We have dealt with many clients that only want a certain level of experience and people should just be aware that this type of experience will cost more money vs. more affordable options. There is something for everyone in Buenos Aires!Like most major metropolitan cities, there is something for everyone at every price range. I don't think anyones experiences should be criticized as wrong at any level. I have friends when they come visit me stay in hostels and I have others that have tons of $$$$ that stay at the Four Seasons or Faena. Same thing on dining out and same thing on many other things.
100%. There's varying degrees of price points. The problem is I see most posts complain about the upper echelon of a Don Julio or something similar. High end is high end for a reason. It would be similar to someone complaining about the price of cars stating a 350K Lamborghini as outrageous, conveniently leaving out there are much cheaper affordable options. Not all price increases rise at the same rate.This is absolutely correct. These restaurants that the OP mentions are the cream of the crop restaurants in Buenos Aires. We have dined at all of these restaurants many times and they are more expensive vs. other local options. Some of them are mentioned in Michelin Guidebooks. They are definitely wonderful restaurants but also on the more expensive side. Same with the Park Hyatt hotel. It is one of the best hotels in Buenos Aires. Especially the rooms on the Avenida Alvear side.
Exactly correct. Buenos Aires has something for everyone just like most major cities around the world. We have dealt with many clients that only want a certain level of experience and people should just be aware that this type of experience will cost more money vs. more affordable options. There is something for everyone in Buenos Aires!
i'm used to a select few people on here posting lies, and your claim of:I was just posting on my experiences.
All the places we went I did not think prices were too affordable
agreed, i just hope you realize the absolute lavishness of your trip! and i'm not dissuading anyone from doing that; you earned it. i'm glad you had a good time, just like @MikeYoung, but the fact that you have no clue what a normal coffee costs, or a normal parilla meal, is something that is very strange and disconnected to me. it's just not how i travel, but i wouldn't criticize anything about your style; it's just the statement that you thought prices were higher than planned...and you went to the top 1% of retaurants and hotels imagine what that would cost in Geneva or Oslo!Buenos Aires was a very nice city and I hope my posts don't persuade people not to visit. I admit we stayed in a very nice hotel and dined out at nice restaurants. I believe most tourists will have a great time and there were many restaurants that I am sure are available at all price levels.
right, which i clarified; it's not wrong, but it would be a stupid thing for someone like Paris Hilton to say that 'prices were higher than expected' after she took a weekend of luxury in Palermo Hollywood or Puerto MaderoI don't think anyones experiences should be criticized as wrong at any level
Thank you for posting the places you went to @fetch rover. I will do a few splurge restaurant visits. I will mostly be on a budget but my friend there now told me she has gone to La Mar and Osaka and raved about it. @fetch rover what was your absolute favorite meal of the trip? Thank you for sharing about your trip. No Park Hyatt hotel for me but my girlfriend told me that you can have tea there and she ate lunch there and said it was beautiful in the outdoor garden.I am not sure what is going on. I was just posting on my experiences. I did mention we went to touristy places to eat and it was my first trip. I was expecting it to be very inexpensive in all places. It was in many places but many meals we went to were pricey for the 4 of us. We went to Don Julio, Chila, Osaka, SottoVoce, Fogon Asado, A Fuego Fuerte, Aramburu, Cabana Las Lilas, Elena, El Preferido, La Mar and a few other places that I can't remember the names. These places were recommended by my husband's company or my husband visited when he lived here before.
I am not claiming to be an expert on dining in Buenos Aires. And I am not saying it is more expensive than the USA. I am only stating the facts that some of these places were not as affordable as I believed they would be. I am not stating that you can't dine out in BA for affordable prices either. I am not sure the reason for hostility as I am just stating my opinion on prices at the places we dined out at.
One thing that we found much cheaper vs. the USA and other places we have visited is high quality wines. They were much cheaper in Buenos Aires vs. other places we have visited. Street food or simple food like empanadas and such were very cheap. I am not arguing that Buenos Aires is not an affordable place as many things were very affordable. It was very affordable getting around town in Ubers. I don't remember ever paying less to get around a major city vs. Buenos Aires.
Buenos Aires was a very nice city and I hope my posts don't persuade people not to visit. I admit we stayed in a very nice hotel and dined out at nice restaurants. I believe most tourists will have a great time and there were many restaurants that I am sure are available at all price levels.
@Jenn you will enjoy La Mar and Osaka. Yes, you can have afternoon tea at the Park Hyatt. I lived on that same block when I lived in Buenos Aires for a decade and you will really enjoy having tea there or lunch. Beware it's not cheap however. Quite pricey. Although I lived on the same block my wife and I once a year would stay over at the hotel. Just fabulous.Thank you for posting the places you went to @fetch rover. I will do a few splurge restaurant visits. I will mostly be on a budget but my friend there now told me she has gone to La Mar and Osaka and raved about it. @fetch rover what was your absolute favorite meal of the trip? Thank you for sharing about your trip. No Park Hyatt hotel for me but my girlfriend told me that you can have tea there and she ate lunch there and said it was beautiful in the outdoor garden.
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