I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell the name of the country Argentina right.

[LongIslander]

It is semi-dodgy because it is not a real prize or medal

It is from a right-wing leader of the Comunidad de Madrid to a right-wing President.

There is no merit involved here - if he was left-wing, he would not get this prize.

The medal in Germany is more of the same, a right-wing economics foundation gives a medal to a right-wing President

These badges don't add one little thing to Argentinas reputation in the world

I can see your point but still think these are still an honor but understand that Argentines might not feel great about their President flying out every few weeks. I still think he is trying to raise awareness about Argentina but fair enough points.

I took the time to find out more about this International Medal of the Community of Madrid, which recognizes foreign country authorities, on behalf of the people of Madrid, for their institutional work. It was also awarded to Volodymyr Zelensky, a pragmatic centrist; Venezuela's Juan Guaidó, also a centrist; Central Macedonia's Governor, Apostolos Tzitzikostas, a right-leaning centrist and, last year, to Ecuador's President, Daniel Noboa, who is considered to have a centrist political stance (leaning right on economic policies and left on social policies).

The medal is to be awarded to dignitaries only on official visits but Díaz Ayuso decided to present it to President Milei during a non-official visit (probably to annoy Sánchez, as you mentioned).



Why not? He genuinely deserves the medal. In essence, the award reflects Milei's alignment with economic principles and policies favored by the German Economics Foundation, his efforts to implement these principles, and his role in promoting economic liberalization/libertarianism in Argentina.

Some other recipients:

• Angela Merkel (Chancellor of Germany)
• Wolfgang Schäuble (Former Minister of Finance of Germany)
• Jean-Claude Juncker (Former President of the European Commission)
• Christine Lagarde (President of the European Central Bank)
• Mario Draghi (Former President of the European Central Bank)
• Hans-Werner Sinn (Economist and former President of the Ifo Institute for Economic Research)

We'll celebrate it together next October.

Thanks for doing the research. Definitely was done to annoy Sanchez which it most certainly did. Mission accomplished.

 

[Larry]

Germans and Argentines in Germany also protesting these fake awards to Milei.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1804938466066928123

 

[JoeTrip]

Going to talk to potential investors is absolutely fine.

To go and pick up semi-dodgy prizes and medals from political allies using taxpayers' cash is not really sensible when we all know that "no hay plate"

See that Milei picked up another semi-dodgy prize in Germany.

To all of you Milei supporters that think it's ok to go around the world and accept all these awards. How many is enough? How often should he be doing this? Doesn't Argentina have enough problems going on now to solve?

It sounds like Milei is wising up that many don't think that flying all over the EU accepting these dodgy prizes are a priority. The fact that he requested not to have military honors and a joint conference show that.


Scholz’s spokesperson, Steffen Hebestreit, said Friday it would be a “very short working visit, expressly at the wish of the Argentine president” and that there had been a “clear refusal” by Milei to hold a news conference. A greeting with military honors and a joint news conference that the German government originally announced were later canceled.

The meeting came after Milei accepted an award from the neoliberal Augusto von Hayek Foundation in the German port city of Hamburg on Saturday for “freeing the population from shackles” and restoring “hope." In a speech as he accepted the award, Milei declared he was defeating the “socialists” with “the largest fiscal adjustment in history of Argentina.” He was met with chants of “freedom!" in Spanish.

Argentina's Milei meets German officials in controversial lap around Europe

Argentina's self-described anarcho-capitalist President Javier Milei met with German officials on Sunday in Berlin, part of his ongoing lap of Europe which has been greeted with both celebration and outrage. In a meeting with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Sunday, the two leaders discussed...

www.yahoo.com

 

[Avocado]

Going to talk to potential investors is absolutely fine.

To go and pick up semi-dodgy prizes and medals from political allies using taxpayers' cash is not really sensible when we all know that "no hay plate"

Here this talks about the only reason Milei go to Germany so he can send bill for his trip to collect fake medals to Argentine taxpayers. Milei say no hay plata but there is plata to fly to Europe to collect his personal fake medals and send bill to taxpayers. Now next month Milei will come back to Europe again to watch Olympics. This a joke!

According to analysts consulted in Buenos Aires by MercoPress, the most plausible reason for Milei meeting with the Social Democrat Scholz was that an encounter between two heads of government would qualify as a State trip. Otherwise, all Milei did in Europe was collect medals of a personal nature while traveling on the Presidential aircraft and billing his expenses to Casa Rosada.

Milei discusses Mercosur and OECD with Scholz

Argentine President Javier Milei met this weekend in Berlin with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in what became his first encounter with a foreign leader not akin to his rightwing philosophy. Nevertheless, both leaders discussed the trade agreement between the European Union (EU) and Mercosur and...

en.mercopress.com

 

[CecilM]

It’s concerning to see $200,000 spent on a three-day trip while our country is facing serious economic challenges. Although I understand the importance of international meetings and conferences, it’s hard to justify such high expenses, especially considering the current priorities and needs of Argentine citizens. This kind of spending not only raises doubts about the efficient management of public resources but can also erode the public's trust in their leaders. Wouldn't it be wiser to find ways to reduce these costs and allocate those funds to areas that urgently need attention?

President Milei’s trip to Los Angeles cost US$200,000

Public information request filed with government reveals three-day trip cost just over US$200,000; President stayed at Beverly Hills Hilton, spoke at conference, met with Musk and Infantino.

batimes.com.ar

 

[Jenn]

It’s concerning to see $200,000 spent on a three-day trip while our country is facing serious economic challenges. Although I understand the importance of international meetings and conferences, it’s hard to justify such high expenses, especially considering the current priorities and needs of Argentine citizens. This kind of spending not only raises doubts about the efficient management of public resources but can also erode the public's trust in their leaders. Wouldn't it be wiser to find ways to reduce these costs and allocate those funds to areas that urgently need attention?

President Milei’s trip to Los Angeles cost US$200,000

Public information request filed with government reveals three-day trip cost just over US$200,000; President stayed at Beverly Hills Hilton, spoke at conference, met with Musk and Infantino.

batimes.com.ar

I can see both sides but I think @GlasgowJohn made a great point about the awards. They sound like they are partisan awards and there is an agenda. They are using Javier Milei to get exposure and PR for their side. I guess he has to be careful about too many of these events. Especially when half he country hates you. Seems like you are just adding fuel to the fire going to these.

 

[CecilM]

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And she left the country in ruins...

Did I ever defend Cristina? On the contrary, there was obviously a lot of corruption and mismanagement during her administration. But that doesn’t automatically make me a fan of Milei. The problem with fanatics is that, in their minds, if you criticize Milei in any way, then you must be a fan of Cristina Kirchner, and if you criticize the Kirchneristas, then you must be a fan of Milei. It’s incredible where fanaticism takes people! They have such a limited way of thinking. I always try to be objective.

 

[noname]

Did I ever defend Cristina? On the contrary, there was obviously a lot of corruption and mismanagement during her administration. But that doesn’t automatically make me a fan of Milei. The problem with fanatics is that, in their minds, if you criticize Milei in any way, then you must be a fan of Cristina Kirchner, and if you criticize the Kirchneristas, then you must be a fan of Milei. It’s incredible where fanaticism takes people! They have such a limited way of thinking. I always try to be objective.

I think you make a good point about how fanaticism isn’t good. I support Milei, but it’s clear that mistakes have been made too. Just because I voted for him doesn’t mean I’m a fanatic. A lot of people voted for him out of a lack of better options, not necessarily out of conviction. They were just tired of the same old thing. So, I totally agree with you, fanaticism only makes people blind.

 

[GlasgowJohn]

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And she left the country in ruins...

But if she did this, there is no reason why you should do this.

SI NO HAY PLATA , NO HAY PLATA PARA VAJES NARCISTICOS.

 

[Johnny]

But if she did this, there is no reason why you should do this.

SI NO HAY PLATA , NO HAY PLATA PARA VAJES NARCISTICOS.

Agree about comparing especially when Cristina seems like she was plagued with corruption. I have read a lot about her. I don't think the new President would want any comparisons for her. I don't think the dollar amount matters too much. It doesn't seem like a good use of time OR money. From what I understand these aren't very prestigious awards at all. They tow the party line. One could spend a lot of time and money just traveling around accepting awards.

Also, probably good to wait to celebrate once you have proven that things have turned the corner in Argentina. It sounds like things are improving but some that I met there tell me cost of living has raised drastically and unemployment is very high. I would wait to celebrate once they have turned the corner.

When a huge part of your platform is "We are dead broke and there is no money!" and you fly around accepting quasi-medals it's a slippery slope.

 

[BA Bound]

Agree about comparing especially when Cristina seems like she was plagued with corruption. I have read a lot about her. I don't think the new President would want any comparisons for her. I don't think the dollar amount matters too much. It doesn't seem like a good use of time OR money. From what I understand these aren't very prestigious awards at all. They tow the party line. One could spend a lot of time and money just traveling around accepting awards.

Also, probably good to wait to celebrate once you have proven that things have turned the corner in Argentina. It sounds like things are improving but some that I met there tell me cost of living has raised drastically and unemployment is very high. I would wait to celebrate once they have turned the corner.

When a huge part of your platform is "We are dead broke and there is no money!" and you fly around accepting quasi-medals it's a slippery slope.

Agree with this.

My my he does get around! I see he is in Prague now.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1805294077207863729

 

[Larry]

///

The award from the Community of Madrid was given by the right-wing president of the community – it is politically motivated and the principal reason is to annoy the Country’s center-left President – This can only be described as semi-dodgy. With all due respect, this is not a real award – if Milei had been left of center he would not have got it.

The medal from the German Economics Foundation cannot be described as a true award either. OK, a real physical medal exists but it is based on his right-wing credentials, nothing else.

Milei and his team claim they are genuine awards but I am not convinced/ He is only celebrated by his fellow right-wingers in the countries he is visiting.

When the Nobel Foundation comes calling, I will admit that this award is a good one!

Also, the video in the Puerta del Sol in Madrid has been skilfully edited and you can only see part of the square- this square is always busy / it certainly wasn’t any busier than I have seen it in the past

Funny you should mention Nobel Foundation. I honestly believe this is the only thing that interests Milei. He doesn't are about being President. He just wants to gain exposure for his book and thinking about future beyond Argentina. He is a whore for attention.

The nerve of this guy. Hundreds of thousands of unemployed, economy in shambles and he just travels around the world promoting his book and accept fake medals. Unemployment numbers are going to continue to skyrocket as more and more companies go out of business.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1805325020555886688

 

[TonyTigre]

To anyone who does not believe getting foreign investments is a very important priority for Argentina, then we can just agree to disagree and you don't have to read the rest of this post. Foreign investment includes getting loans from organizations such as the IMF, the World Bank, and for foreign institutional investors to buy Argentinian bonds (especially new bonds in the future). It also includes foreign companies starting or expanding businesses in Argentina.

Multiple people have noted that others are using Milei for their PR or as a tool. I agree 100%, of course they are. That's how the world works. Countries use each other, people use each other. When influential people from other countries use Milei for their PR or political agenda, the name Argentina is talked about. The name Argentina and the business friendly changes being made are mentioned in the media coverage. Those allies also have influence in the IMF and the World Bank and would be more willing to support Argentina's interests in return. Of course there will be those who would like Milei to fail, but if they actively go against Argentina, that would be picking a fight with Milei the mad man. They have to ask themselves whether that's worth it. I think people are starting to realize it's not worth it because Milei will point a big spotlight on their weaknesses.

People like Musk and other billionaires probably want Milei to help them cut red tape and get some tax incentives if they invest in Argentina. Milei critics will no doubt complain he gives too much, no matter what the terms are, but the fact that they are even considering Argentina is an achievement in itself. At the beginning, you have to give investors some extra profits to offset the extra risk they are taking with you. You can renegotiate in the future when you have proven yourself. If you disagree with this, then tell us how you would like to spend all the tax credit that Argentina won't be giving away to the billionaires. [That's sarcasm in case you didn't get it because you can't spend the tax revenue on 25% of ZERO.]

For those who ask how many trips are too many, what do you think should be the right amount of advertising and marketing budget for Argentina to promote foreign investments and tourism, and how should those budgets be spent? How would their effectiveness compare to that of what Milei has been doing? Regardless of what your answers are, some of us are not going to agree with you. Milei wants to do it his way.

People say what Milei is doing, he is doing it for himself, for self promotion. Surely there is no better promotion for Milei than for Argentina to succeed under his reforms and leadership. So Milei's interests and that of Argentina are aligned. Milei being more famous means Argentina becomes more well known. As noted in the OP, Argentina can make all the changes in the world and it won't help if no one knows about it and the business community is not talking about it. So getting the name Argentina out there is a complementary effort.

Other also mentioned foreign critics of Milei. Well, he would probably also say again: "I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell the name of the country Argentina right."

 

[Finance Prof]

To anyone who does not believe getting foreign investments is a very important priority for Argentina, then we can just agree to disagree and you don't have to read the rest of this post. Foreign investment includes getting loans from organizations such as the IMF, the World Bank, and for foreign institutional investors to buy Argentinian bonds (especially new bonds in the future). It also includes foreign companies starting or expanding businesses in Argentina.

Multiple people have noted that others are using Milei for their PR or as a tool. I agree 100%, of course they are. That's how the world works. Countries use each other, people use each other. When influential people from other countries use Milei for their PR or political agenda, the name Argentina is talked about. The name Argentina and the business friendly changes being made are mentioned in the media coverage. Those allies also have influence in the IMF and the World Bank and would be more willing to support Argentina's interests in return. Of course there will be those who would like Milei to fail, but if they actively go against Argentina, that would be picking a fight with Milei the mad man. They have to ask themselves whether that's worth it. I think people are starting to realize it's not worth it because Milei will point a big spotlight on their weaknesses.

People like Musk and other billionaires probably want Milei to help them cut red tape and get some tax incentives if they invest in Argentina. Milei critics will no doubt complain he gives too much, no matter what the terms are, but the fact that they are even considering Argentina is an achievement in itself. At the beginning, you have to give investors some extra profits to offset the extra risk they are taking with you. You can renegotiate in the future when you have proven yourself. If you disagree with this, then tell us how you would like to spend all the tax credit that Argentina won't be giving away to the billionaires. [That's sarcasm in case you didn't get it because you can't spend the tax revenue on 25% of ZERO.]

For those who ask how many trips are too many, what do you think should be the right amount of advertising and marketing budget for Argentina to promote foreign investments and tourism, and how should those budgets be spent? How would their effectiveness compare to that of what Milei has been doing? Regardless of what your answers are, some of us are not going to agree with you. Milei wants to do it his way.

People say what Milei is doing, he is doing it for himself, for self promotion. Surely there is no better promotion for Milei than for Argentina to succeed under his reforms and leadership. So Milei's interests and that of Argentina are aligned. Milei being more famous means Argentina becomes more well known. As noted in the OP, Argentina can make all the changes in the world and it won't help if no one knows about it and the business community is not talking about it. So getting the name Argentina out there is a complementary effort.

Other also mentioned foreign critics of Milei. Well, he would probably also say again: "I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell the name of the country Argentina right."

This is one of the best posts I have read on this forum. President Milei will take on anyone he believes is wrong and so far anyone that has went against him have gotten embarrassed tremendously. Like you said @TonyTigre he will point out their big weaknesses.

The way Argentina operates no big companies would have come here. With Milei at least there is a shot. I can't say the same thing for past Presidents. Even with Milei it won't be easy unless things improve.

President Milei is Argentina's best shot. If he isn't successful, it's lights out for this country.

 

[Betsy Ross]

To anyone who does not believe getting foreign investments is a very important priority for Argentina, then we can just agree to disagree and you don't have to read the rest of this post. Foreign investment includes getting loans from organizations such as the IMF, the World Bank, and for foreign institutional investors to buy Argentinian bonds (especially new bonds in the future). It also includes foreign companies starting or expanding businesses in Argentina.

Multiple people have noted that others are using Milei for their PR or as a tool. I agree 100%, of course they are. That's how the world works. Countries use each other, people use each other. When influential people from other countries use Milei for their PR or political agenda, the name Argentina is talked about. The name Argentina and the business friendly changes being made are mentioned in the media coverage. Those allies also have influence in the IMF and the World Bank and would be more willing to support Argentina's interests in return. Of course there will be those who would like Milei to fail, but if they actively go against Argentina, that would be picking a fight with Milei the mad man. They have to ask themselves whether that's worth it. I think people are starting to realize it's not worth it because Milei will point a big spotlight on their weaknesses.

People like Musk and other billionaires probably want Milei to help them cut red tape and get some tax incentives if they invest in Argentina. Milei critics will no doubt complain he gives too much, no matter what the terms are, but the fact that they are even considering Argentina is an achievement in itself. At the beginning, you have to give investors some extra profits to offset the extra risk they are taking with you. You can renegotiate in the future when you have proven yourself. If you disagree with this, then tell us how you would like to spend all the tax credit that Argentina won't be giving away to the billionaires. [That's sarcasm in case you didn't get it because you can't spend the tax revenue on 25% of ZERO.]

For those who ask how many trips are too many, what do you think should be the right amount of advertising and marketing budget for Argentina to promote foreign investments and tourism, and how should those budgets be spent? How would their effectiveness compare to that of what Milei has been doing? Regardless of what your answers are, some of us are not going to agree with you. Milei wants to do it his way.

People say what Milei is doing, he is doing it for himself, for self promotion. Surely there is no better promotion for Milei than for Argentina to succeed under his reforms and leadership. So Milei's interests and that of Argentina are aligned. Milei being more famous means Argentina becomes more well known. As noted in the OP, Argentina can make all the changes in the world and it won't help if no one knows about it and the business community is not talking about it. So getting the name Argentina out there is a complementary effort.

Other also mentioned foreign critics of Milei. Well, he would probably also say again: "I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell the name of the country Argentina right."

Excellent post. People will complain no matter what you do right. When half the country is against you they will complain even when things are done right. Milei knows and understands that. I don't think he cares to be honest. He is doing whatever he thinks will help Argentina.

 

[earlyretirement]

To anyone who does not believe getting foreign investments is a very important priority for Argentina, then we can just agree to disagree and you don't have to read the rest of this post. Foreign investment includes getting loans from organizations such as the IMF, the World Bank, and for foreign institutional investors to buy Argentinian bonds (especially new bonds in the future). It also includes foreign companies starting or expanding businesses in Argentina.

Multiple people have noted that others are using Milei for their PR or as a tool. I agree 100%, of course they are. That's how the world works. Countries use each other, people use each other. When influential people from other countries use Milei for their PR or political agenda, the name Argentina is talked about. The name Argentina and the business friendly changes being made are mentioned in the media coverage. Those allies also have influence in the IMF and the World Bank and would be more willing to support Argentina's interests in return. Of course there will be those who would like Milei to fail, but if they actively go against Argentina, that would be picking a fight with Milei the mad man. They have to ask themselves whether that's worth it. I think people are starting to realize it's not worth it because Milei will point a big spotlight on their weaknesses.

People like Musk and other billionaires probably want Milei to help them cut red tape and get some tax incentives if they invest in Argentina. Milei critics will no doubt complain he gives too much, no matter what the terms are, but the fact that they are even considering Argentina is an achievement in itself. At the beginning, you have to give investors some extra profits to offset the extra risk they are taking with you. You can renegotiate in the future when you have proven yourself. If you disagree with this, then tell us how you would like to spend all the tax credit that Argentina won't be giving away to the billionaires. [That's sarcasm in case you didn't get it because you can't spend the tax revenue on 25% of ZERO.]

For those who ask how many trips are too many, what do you think should be the right amount of advertising and marketing budget for Argentina to promote foreign investments and tourism, and how should those budgets be spent? How would their effectiveness compare to that of what Milei has been doing? Regardless of what your answers are, some of us are not going to agree with you. Milei wants to do it his way.

People say what Milei is doing, he is doing it for himself, for self promotion. Surely there is no better promotion for Milei than for Argentina to succeed under his reforms and leadership. So Milei's interests and that of Argentina are aligned. Milei being more famous means Argentina becomes more well known. As noted in the OP, Argentina can make all the changes in the world and it won't help if no one knows about it and the business community is not talking about it. So getting the name Argentina out there is a complementary effort.

Other also mentioned foreign critics of Milei. Well, he would probably also say again: "I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell the name of the country Argentina right."

@TonyTigre,

You nailed it once again. I've started several companies and the way you describe it is correct. You have to look at it like marketing. President Milei doesn't just look at it as accepting an Award. It is helping the cause to get him and his mission and Argentina in the spotlight. This hasn't happened before. The kind of publicity he is getting is priceless. And even if the awards aren't super prestigious awards like the Nobel Prize, they help out the cause in President Milei's eyes.

As TonyTigre mentioned, it attracts attention from potential investors, IMF, etc. These investors wouldn't have considered Argentina without fundamental changes. Argentina is BRUTALLY tough to do business in. In fact, I'd say without fundamental changes in the labor laws, tax laws and other foundational changes that President Milei is making, it probably wouldn't make sense for a multinational company to enter Argentina. Most things in Argentina are ass backwards. Nothing works as it should. Corruption is rampant.

Even with the changes President Milei is making, Argentina is a brutally tough environment and most likely will be for years to come. Systemic change doesn't happen overnight. It will take many years and President Milei is smart enough to realize. He is trying to right the ship and the people that will benefit the most are probably not people in the near future but most likely the next generation.

I've posted last year and correctly predicted President Milei would win in a landslide. And I mentioned that I hope that he turns things around. I posted how systemic change probably would fully be realized lifetime but hopefully my kids that were born in Argentina and are Citizens here are able to experience systemic change in their lifetime.

Argentina is a brutally tough country in so many ways. Most people unless they have owned a business here or have extensively done a lot of business in Argentina won't realize how brutally tough it is.

 

[Vince]

To anyone who does not believe getting foreign investments is a very important priority for Argentina, then we can just agree to disagree and you don't have to read the rest of this post. Foreign investment includes getting loans from organizations such as the IMF, the World Bank, and for foreign institutional investors to buy Argentinian bonds (especially new bonds in the future). It also includes foreign companies starting or expanding businesses in Argentina.

Multiple people have noted that others are using Milei for their PR or as a tool. I agree 100%, of course they are. That's how the world works. Countries use each other, people use each other. When influential people from other countries use Milei for their PR or political agenda, the name Argentina is talked about. The name Argentina and the business friendly changes being made are mentioned in the media coverage. Those allies also have influence in the IMF and the World Bank and would be more willing to support Argentina's interests in return. Of course there will be those who would like Milei to fail, but if they actively go against Argentina, that would be picking a fight with Milei the mad man. They have to ask themselves whether that's worth it. I think people are starting to realize it's not worth it because Milei will point a big spotlight on their weaknesses.

People like Musk and other billionaires probably want Milei to help them cut red tape and get some tax incentives if they invest in Argentina. Milei critics will no doubt complain he gives too much, no matter what the terms are, but the fact that they are even considering Argentina is an achievement in itself. At the beginning, you have to give investors some extra profits to offset the extra risk they are taking with you. You can renegotiate in the future when you have proven yourself. If you disagree with this, then tell us how you would like to spend all the tax credit that Argentina won't be giving away to the billionaires. [That's sarcasm in case you didn't get it because you can't spend the tax revenue on 25% of ZERO.]

For those who ask how many trips are too many, what do you think should be the right amount of advertising and marketing budget for Argentina to promote foreign investments and tourism, and how should those budgets be spent? How would their effectiveness compare to that of what Milei has been doing? Regardless of what your answers are, some of us are not going to agree with you. Milei wants to do it his way.

People say what Milei is doing, he is doing it for himself, for self promotion. Surely there is no better promotion for Milei than for Argentina to succeed under his reforms and leadership. So Milei's interests and that of Argentina are aligned. Milei being more famous means Argentina becomes more well known. As noted in the OP, Argentina can make all the changes in the world and it won't help if no one knows about it and the business community is not talking about it. So getting the name Argentina out there is a complementary effort.

Other also mentioned foreign critics of Milei. Well, he would probably also say again: "I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell the name of the country Argentina right."

Exactly! I always laugh when people complain about the likes of Elon Musk getting a possible tax incentive. Without these companies there is NO revenue. Argentina can't do it on its own so it's either foreign investment or it ain't happening.

Ok @TonyTigre you changed my mind. Milei can go and accept as many awards as he wants. You make great points.

 

[Digital Nomad]

To anyone who does not believe getting foreign investments is a very important priority for Argentina, then we can just agree to disagree and you don't have to read the rest of this post. Foreign investment includes getting loans from organizations such as the IMF, the World Bank, and for foreign institutional investors to buy Argentinian bonds (especially new bonds in the future). It also includes foreign companies starting or expanding businesses in Argentina.

Multiple people have noted that others are using Milei for their PR or as a tool. I agree 100%, of course they are. That's how the world works. Countries use each other, people use each other. When influential people from other countries use Milei for their PR or political agenda, the name Argentina is talked about. The name Argentina and the business friendly changes being made are mentioned in the media coverage. Those allies also have influence in the IMF and the World Bank and would be more willing to support Argentina's interests in return. Of course there will be those who would like Milei to fail, but if they actively go against Argentina, that would be picking a fight with Milei the mad man. They have to ask themselves whether that's worth it. I think people are starting to realize it's not worth it because Milei will point a big spotlight on their weaknesses.

People like Musk and other billionaires probably want Milei to help them cut red tape and get some tax incentives if they invest in Argentina. Milei critics will no doubt complain he gives too much, no matter what the terms are, but the fact that they are even considering Argentina is an achievement in itself. At the beginning, you have to give investors some extra profits to offset the extra risk they are taking with you. You can renegotiate in the future when you have proven yourself. If you disagree with this, then tell us how you would like to spend all the tax credit that Argentina won't be giving away to the billionaires. [That's sarcasm in case you didn't get it because you can't spend the tax revenue on 25% of ZERO.]

For those who ask how many trips are too many, what do you think should be the right amount of advertising and marketing budget for Argentina to promote foreign investments and tourism, and how should those budgets be spent? How would their effectiveness compare to that of what Milei has been doing? Regardless of what your answers are, some of us are not going to agree with you. Milei wants to do it his way.

People say what Milei is doing, he is doing it for himself, for self promotion. Surely there is no better promotion for Milei than for Argentina to succeed under his reforms and leadership. So Milei's interests and that of Argentina are aligned. Milei being more famous means Argentina becomes more well known. As noted in the OP, Argentina can make all the changes in the world and it won't help if no one knows about it and the business community is not talking about it. So getting the name Argentina out there is a complementary effort.

Other also mentioned foreign critics of Milei. Well, he would probably also say again: "I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell the name of the country Argentina right."

You are a great writer @TonyTigre. You get your points across in a logical way. You sound like you understand Argentina well. I am curious what your opinion is of Milei's support of the Ukraine and his support for Israel. I just like reading your posts and would love your thoughts on that.

@TonyTigre,

You nailed it once again. I've started several companies and the way you describe it is correct. You have to look at it like marketing. President Milei doesn't just look at it as accepting an Award. It is helping the cause to get him and his mission and Argentina in the spotlight. This hasn't happened before. The kind of publicity he is getting is priceless. And even if the awards aren't super prestigious awards like the Nobel Prize, they help out the cause in President Milei's eyes.

As TonyTigre mentioned, it attracts attention from potential investors, IMF, etc. These investors wouldn't have considered Argentina without fundamental changes. Argentina is BRUTALLY tough to do business in. In fact, I'd say without fundamental changes in the labor laws, tax laws and other foundational changes that President Milei is making, it probably wouldn't make sense for a multinational company to enter Argentina. Most things in Argentina are ass backwards. Nothing works as it should. Corruption is rampant.

Even with the changes President Milei is making, Argentina is a brutally tough environment and most likely will be for years to come. Systemic change doesn't happen overnight. It will take many years and President Milei is smart enough to realize. He is trying to right the ship and the people that will benefit the most are probably not people in the near future but most likely the next generation.

I've posted last year and correctly predicted President Milei would win in a landslide. And I mentioned that I hope that he turns things around. I posted how systemic change probably would fully be realized lifetime but hopefully my kids that were born in Argentina and are Citizens here are able to experience systemic change in their lifetime.

Argentina is a brutally tough country in so many ways. Most people unless they have owned a business here or have extensively done a lot of business in Argentina won't realize how brutally tough it is.

Wow. I am just a digital nomad/tourist here and understand things are difficult here but are things really that bad here from a business standpoint? It's surprising to hear that you aren't sure if you'll see a big change in your lifetime. That makes Argentina sound very bleak.

 

[Uncle Wong]

To anyone who does not believe getting foreign investments is a very important priority for Argentina, then we can just agree to disagree and you don't have to read the rest of this post. Foreign investment includes getting loans from organizations such as the IMF, the World Bank, and for foreign institutional investors to buy Argentinian bonds (especially new bonds in the future). It also includes foreign companies starting or expanding businesses in Argentina.

Multiple people have noted that others are using Milei for their PR or as a tool. I agree 100%, of course they are. That's how the world works. Countries use each other, people use each other. When influential people from other countries use Milei for their PR or political agenda, the name Argentina is talked about. The name Argentina and the business friendly changes being made are mentioned in the media coverage. Those allies also have influence in the IMF and the World Bank and would be more willing to support Argentina's interests in return. Of course there will be those who would like Milei to fail, but if they actively go against Argentina, that would be picking a fight with Milei the mad man. They have to ask themselves whether that's worth it. I think people are starting to realize it's not worth it because Milei will point a big spotlight on their weaknesses.

People like Musk and other billionaires probably want Milei to help them cut red tape and get some tax incentives if they invest in Argentina. Milei critics will no doubt complain he gives too much, no matter what the terms are, but the fact that they are even considering Argentina is an achievement in itself. At the beginning, you have to give investors some extra profits to offset the extra risk they are taking with you. You can renegotiate in the future when you have proven yourself. If you disagree with this, then tell us how you would like to spend all the tax credit that Argentina won't be giving away to the billionaires. [That's sarcasm in case you didn't get it because you can't spend the tax revenue on 25% of ZERO.]

For those who ask how many trips are too many, what do you think should be the right amount of advertising and marketing budget for Argentina to promote foreign investments and tourism, and how should those budgets be spent? How would their effectiveness compare to that of what Milei has been doing? Regardless of what your answers are, some of us are not going to agree with you. Milei wants to do it his way.

People say what Milei is doing, he is doing it for himself, for self promotion. Surely there is no better promotion for Milei than for Argentina to succeed under his reforms and leadership. So Milei's interests and that of Argentina are aligned. Milei being more famous means Argentina becomes more well known. As noted in the OP, Argentina can make all the changes in the world and it won't help if no one knows about it and the business community is not talking about it. So getting the name Argentina out there is a complementary effort.

Other also mentioned foreign critics of Milei. Well, he would probably also say again: "I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell the name of the country Argentina right."

Enjoy reading your posts @TonyTigre. What do you think an advantage of Argentina becoming a future global partner of NATO? Things like this don't make sense to me. I admit I know very little about Argentina but trying to learn more and more each day as I want to live there someday. Just a few months ago, and even today Argentina is totally broke, in debt and has a lot of problems. Is it really realistic for "Argentina to take its share of responsibility for global security"? That makes no sense to me. It even comes across as a bit absurd. I bet people that are against Milei read things like this and seems crazy to them?

“We together support (Ukraine) President (Volodymyr) Zelenskyy against the brutal Russian aggression, and at the same time we agree that Israel has a right to defend itself against terrorism,” Milei said through a translator.


Pavel said he believed that Argentina will become in the future one of the global partners of NATO.

“I’m glad that Argentina is ready to take its share of responsibility for the global security,” Pavel said.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/argentina-president-javier-milei-meets-195712431.html

 

[import export]

To anyone who does not believe getting foreign investments is a very important priority for Argentina, then we can just agree to disagree and you don't have to read the rest of this post. Foreign investment includes getting loans from organizations such as the IMF, the World Bank, and for foreign institutional investors to buy Argentinian bonds (especially new bonds in the future). It also includes foreign companies starting or expanding businesses in Argentina.

Multiple people have noted that others are using Milei for their PR or as a tool. I agree 100%, of course they are. That's how the world works. Countries use each other, people use each other. When influential people from other countries use Milei for their PR or political agenda, the name Argentina is talked about. The name Argentina and the business friendly changes being made are mentioned in the media coverage. Those allies also have influence in the IMF and the World Bank and would be more willing to support Argentina's interests in return. Of course there will be those who would like Milei to fail, but if they actively go against Argentina, that would be picking a fight with Milei the mad man. They have to ask themselves whether that's worth it. I think people are starting to realize it's not worth it because Milei will point a big spotlight on their weaknesses.

People like Musk and other billionaires probably want Milei to help them cut red tape and get some tax incentives if they invest in Argentina. Milei critics will no doubt complain he gives too much, no matter what the terms are, but the fact that they are even considering Argentina is an achievement in itself. At the beginning, you have to give investors some extra profits to offset the extra risk they are taking with you. You can renegotiate in the future when you have proven yourself. If you disagree with this, then tell us how you would like to spend all the tax credit that Argentina won't be giving away to the billionaires. [That's sarcasm in case you didn't get it because you can't spend the tax revenue on 25% of ZERO.]

For those who ask how many trips are too many, what do you think should be the right amount of advertising and marketing budget for Argentina to promote foreign investments and tourism, and how should those budgets be spent? How would their effectiveness compare to that of what Milei has been doing? Regardless of what your answers are, some of us are not going to agree with you. Milei wants to do it his way.

People say what Milei is doing, he is doing it for himself, for self promotion. Surely there is no better promotion for Milei than for Argentina to succeed under his reforms and leadership. So Milei's interests and that of Argentina are aligned. Milei being more famous means Argentina becomes more well known. As noted in the OP, Argentina can make all the changes in the world and it won't help if no one knows about it and the business community is not talking about it. So getting the name Argentina out there is a complementary effort.

Other also mentioned foreign critics of Milei. Well, he would probably also say again: "I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell the name of the country Argentina right."

Agree with parts of this but do think Milei needs to be careful with so many trips for questionable awards. @GlasgowJohn was correct when he called these quasi shady awards. It's not a problem for so many trips until it is if you know what I mean. Milei was smart enough in Germany to cancel press conferences. Many things to still fix in Argentina and @TonyTigre can argue these are all productive which can be true. But I'd counter they are productive until they are a distraction which can easily happen.

These awards are controversial and even in Spain some are saying they are shameful and illegal. This is all just show to rally against the opposite party. They are using Milei just as he is using them. What Milei is good at is reading the tea leaves and he probably can see about half of Argentina thinks flying around and accepting quasi shady awards is just for show. You aren't going to please these people no matter what but probably smart to pick your battles.

If economy deteriorates or recession gets even worse or inflation gets worse all these trips for accepting awards for saving Argentina when it wasn't saved is going to come across as really silly. I'm not saying some of these trips are warranted but at this rate he will spend more than CFK on her trips.

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