eh, there has never been a good enough answer for how you can defend your family, as well as the answer of a defensive 9mm Glock pistol. until there is an appropriate answer (not: call the police, de-escalate, run, etc.) then my right to defend myself trumps anyone's fear of an inanimate object. i see i tagged you but meant to tag the commie Larry - not sure why my dyslexia did that twice, now. apologies!
according to whose statistics? and does it matter if the killings stayed the same number, but transitioned to knife deaths? the UK has some big issues, most especially in the Islamist grooming gang areas of England. unfortunately, importing military-age males from Muslim-majority countries hasn't been good for the average English citizen, and i don't think it's getting better:
and knife crimes are massive in the UK. what do you do if a group of 5 masked men come running at your family with knives?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/25/drug-gangs-worst-spike-knife-gun-crime-five-years/
@GlasgowJohn - my hero Thomas Sowell has also addressed this issue - culture, not gun availability, is the reason for mass-violence in the UK, whether guns in the past or knives now: "
many of the most zealous advocates of gun control laws, on both sides of the Atlantic, have also been advocates of leniency toward criminals. In Britain, such people have been so successful that legal gun ownership has been reduced almost to the vanishing point, while even most convicted felons in Britain are not put behind bars. The crime rate, including the rate of crimes committed with guns, is far higher in Britain now than it was back in the days when there were few restrictions on Britons buying firearms. In 1954, there were only a dozen armed robberies in London but, by the 1990s – after decades of ever tightening gun ownership restrictions – there were more than a hundred times as many armed robberies."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/18/great-gun-control-fallacy-thomas-sowell
there are myriad times when a lawfully-armed peaceful citizen has stopped violent crimes or murders, sometimes just using a defensive display. most criminals want to prey on the helpless, like any psychopath/sociopath
1. Colion Noir four-minute explanation:
2. Brazil female mom/off-duty cop stops a make criminal who was aiming his gun at children and women...kinda
graphic:
3. three-minute summary of lawful citizens defending themselves against violent psychos:
4. Gun Ownership effective for public:
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-l...-effective-self-defense-gun-control-p-142-149
5. over 91% of police officers in a 15,000-officer study said that citizen concealed-carry is good:
https://www.police1.com/gun-legisla...st-solution-to-gun-violence-7uwWgZ75iwWz9vI9/
there's a reason most cops will suggest law-abiding peaceful people have a way to protect their family, with a defensive firearm.
the political agencies who publish some stats are including gang-on-gang violence as "mass shootings" - you take away the 0.1% of psycho people (usually recidivist criminals in gangs) and the statistics change A LOT. Thomas Sowell already debunked the Mass-Shooting myth you've brought-up here, in 2016:
"Mass shootings are often used as examples of a need for gun control. But
what puts a stop to mass shootings? Usually the arrival on the scene of somebody else with a gun."
https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2016/12/30/thomas-sowell-commentary-history-shows/22748858007/
Gun-Free Zones: "One of the many hard facts that gets overlooked by those impressed by visions and rhetoric is that mass shootings almost invariably occur in gun-free zones like schools, workplaces, or houses of worship."
https://www.deseret.com/2007/4/26/2...-collective-guilt-has-part-in-mass-shootings/
"Among the other
facts that gun control zealots consistently ignore are data on how many lives are saved each year by a defensive use of guns. This seldom requires actually shooting. Just pointing a loaded gun at an assailant is usually enough to get him to back off, often in some haste. There have been books and articles based on voluminous statistics, including statistics comparing gun laws and gun crime rates in different countries, such as 'Guns and Violence' by Professor Joyce Lee Malcolm of George Mason University. Seldom do these factual studies back up what the gun control zealots are saying. Why would an ultimately factual question about the consequences of gun control laws divide people along ideological lines? Only if at least one set of people were more devoted to their vision than to the facts. This shows up when
gun control zealots are asked whether whatever new law they propose would have prevented the shooting rampage that they are using as a stage from which to propose a new clampdown on gun ownership. Almost always, the new law being proposed would not have made the slightest difference. That too is part of the farce. A deadly farce."
https://www.desertsun.com/story/opinion/columnists/2015/10/17/sowell-gun-control-farce/74058796/
only according to a commie who hasn't read any evidence that might go against the preconceived 'facts' he already adheres to
😉 we have plenty of restrictive gun countries where it's virtually impossible to own a firearm legally...move there if you don't want people having guns. luckily in the USA and Argentina, and places like Czech Republic, peaceful citizens can possess firearms for defensive use against violent animals and humans. sorry if you don't like it - there are hundreds of other countries where you can live, where no civilians can own firearms. leave Argentina and the USA alone.
holy hell, i just am now reading this thread (i have most the annoying Local Peronists muted). can you connect me with your people in Mendoza?? this is the first time i'm hearing of anyone with friends/family in Mendoza. i just got here recently, and i was living in Mayor Drummond which is near Lujan de Cuyo. weird!
@Shoemaker i'll send you a direct message if you have time.
to the Peronist Locals: guns are already here, more illegal than legal, and peaceful citizens don't use pistols to hurt people; only to defend their families. the law already allows for gun ownership. only communists want to disarm citizens so that restricting rights and ethnic-cleansing/etc. is easier in the future. a disarmed populace is more easily manipulated by the elites or the violent group who gains control:
https://www.spartanfirearmstraining...ation-is-easier-to-oppress-than-an-armed-one/