Medical Healthcare medical monthly premiums are going to get increased!

[noname]

On Monday, the Government and private health insurance companies will face off in front of Judge Juan Rafael Stinco in the Federal Civil and Commercial Court. He has summoned them to a conciliation hearing at 10 in the morning for the case in which the Executive branch demanded that the companies roll back their price increases to December and refund the money charged.

Economy - Private Health Insurance: large companies in the sector are analyzing a return scheme that does not go below 6 installments - Infobae

Prepaid: large companies in the sector are analyzing a return scheme that does not go below 6 installments - Infobae Source: https://www.infobae.com/economia/2024/05/24/prepagas-la-empresas-grandes-del-sector-analizan-un-esquema-de-devolucion-que-no-baje-de-las-6-cuotas/ May 24, 2024...

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[Larry]

OSDE has said they will refund what it charged above inflation for January, February and March.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1803546759676748163

 

[Digital Nomad]

I'm reading reports after rates were supposedly frozen the past month that now they are heading up again. So much for slowing inflation.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1803021894959956249

 

[Melibaires]

In addition to all the price increases, many private health insurance companies have started charging co-payments for consultations. A friend of mine works at a private hospital and told me that some consultations can cost up to $18,000, depending on the plan. This seems to be a common occurrence with plans from Swiss Medical. I asked if the same thing happens with Osde, and she said not yet. But today, an article came out where the government has given the green light for these co-payments. It seems excessive to me.

Prepagas: Gobierno da vía libre a las empresas para fijar los montos de los copagos

El costo de los copagos deberá ser informado al momento de la afiliación y la variación de los mismos también debe reportarse con 30 días de antelación. No obstante, hay prestaciones que quedaron exentas.

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[Jenn]

In addition to all the price increases, many private health insurance companies have started charging co-payments for consultations. A friend of mine works at a private hospital and told me that some consultations can cost up to $18,000, depending on the plan. This seems to be a common occurrence with plans from Swiss Medical. I asked if the same thing happens with Osde, and she said not yet. But today, an article came out where the government has given the green light for these co-payments. It seems excessive to me.

Prepagas: Gobierno da vía libre a las empresas para fijar los montos de los copagos

El costo de los copagos deberá ser informado al momento de la afiliación y la variación de los mismos también debe reportarse con 30 días de antelación. No obstante, hay prestaciones que quedaron exentas.

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Welcome to how it is in the USA. We pay huge payments for medical care, have co-payments and big deductibles each year. Sounds like you guys are heading down that same road.

 

[Melibaires]

Welcome to how it is in the USA. We pay huge payments for medical care, have co-payments and big deductibles each year. Sounds like you guys are heading down that same road.

I have friends there and they always complain about it...in fact I received this explanation from one of them haha I think it graphs exactly how things are there.

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In any case, Argentina and the USA are two countries that are not at the same level ....

 

[Melibaires]

The government is auditing union health plans and private insurance plans to address the mess left by previous administrations, with over 25,000 unresolved member complaints. Finally, proper checks are being implemented, and fines will be issued for non-compliance. This is how it should have always been. Kudos to Milei for getting things in order.

El Gobierno aplicó más multas a obras sociales en siete meses que en los cuatro años anteriores

De menos de 7 millones de pesos en toda la gestión anterior, se pasó a más de 170 millones en sanciones desde el 10 de diciembre hasta ahora. También se dieron de baja 60 prepagas que eran “sellos de goma”. En 2023 hubo 25 mil reclamos de afiliados y no existió ninguna penalidad

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[Jeb Spencer]

Terrible news. After my premiums skyrocketed, it stopped going up for a few months. It never came back down but at least they stopped going up until this month's bill. Mine went up about 4% and they say it will go up another 4.5% next month. Anyone worried they will keep going up now with inflation? I am with Medicus.

 

[Avocado]

I heard they will start raising the healthcare payments again! They said they were going to give refunds for the outrageous increases but they never did. They just subtracted about 6,000 pesos from my bill the past 2 months. Almost nothing. This is a disaster if these premiums keep going up. Already many had to cancel their prepagos.

 

[legend]

The party's over: real oversight is finally happening. Manuel Adorni mentioned that after years of chaos under Kirchnerism, the Ministry of Health finally stepped up and fined health insurance providers for their irregularities. The Superintendence of Health Services adjusted the fines for providers that ignored people's complaints. In 2023, there were 25,000 complaints, but only 6,000 led to formal investigations.
During the review, they found that 60 health insurance providers weren't offering any services at all. It's crazy, corruption was everywhere.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1825541337325666576

 

[Avocado]

The question is when am I going to get a refund for all of those increased prices I paid last year? My bill still hasn't gone down!

 

[MikeRoss]

Have healthcare premiums stabilized or are they still going up?

 

[Silvia]

Just an FYI. My daughter just got her bill from OSDE for January. She was pleasantly surprised it only went up 11.2% ! That's how bad it is when your premium goes up 11.2% and you are happy about it! Only in Argentina. For reference, my daughter is 42 years old and has a 20-year-old on the policy as well.

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Unfortunately the government's promise not to allow increases in medical premiums was a lie. My daughter got her bill today and it went up yet again. This time 10.5% more. It has jumped up to 450,000 pesos per month now.

 

[James Bond]

My girlfriend finally dropped her plan now that we are in Spain. Her mother's bill went up this month also over 12%. When they say inflation is going down in Argentina they are playing with the numbers. Add in all these increases and it is much higher. Maybe in food it might be slowing down but in utilities and insurance it is skyrocketing.

 

[Uncle Wong]

That seems like a huge bill relative to what local wages are. I would guess people are going to drop their insurance plans if they keep going up.

 

[milo]

You’re absolutely right; it really does seem like the claims about inflation going down are fictional, as they don’t reflect daily life. I have local friends who can barely make ends meet. Most of them voted for Milei, and while they’re not necessarily regretting their choice, there’s definitely dissatisfaction with some of the president’s measures. While certain numbers may be manipulated to keep people happy, costs continue to rise across the board, from all services to the essential health insurance that nobody can afford to do without. I wonder how much patience and time people have to wait for things to improve.

Aumentan las cuotas de las prepagas en octubre: cuánto habrá que pagar | TN

Las prestadoras de servicios de salud comenzaron a comunicar a sus afiliados los porcentajes de incrementos en las cuotas para el décimo mes del año. Es el cuarto desde que se liberaron los precios.

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[Avocado]

That seems like a huge bill relative to what local wages are. I would guess people are going to drop their insurance plans if they keep going up.

People can not. Many people for the first time in my life are dropping their prepago plans. Very shocking.

 

[Vero]

So much for no inflation. The prepago prices are starting to go back up again. Hospital Aleman just raised their prices 4% for this month. My neighbor is paying 458,000 pesos for he and his wife and one child.

 

[Uncle Wong]

Healthcare costs are increasing again. Just heard from my friend that I met in BA. She is fairly young in her late 30's and married. She has 2 kids and on OSDE's lower tier plan and she is paying 560,000 pesos per month. She just got notice that her bill is increasing again.

 

[Shoemaker]

Healthcare costs are increasing again. Just heard from my friend that I met in BA. She is fairly young in her late 30's and married. She has 2 kids and on OSDE's lower tier plan and she is paying 560,000 pesos per month. She just got notice that her bill is increasing again.

Hospital Italiano also just announced they are raising 5% a month now until the end of the year. So these inflation figures they are throwing around are all false. Food prices have stabilized a little but everything else has gone up. Most that I know have had to cut back on beef purchases. These premium increases are killing us.