Unfortunately, many places selling fruit and vegetables don't list prices. They probably never will but I hope this changes but many of these places are always sizing people up and charging different prices as they see fit.
Yes too much of this happens to avoid these types of places in some neighborhoods. The key is to establish some type of trust and relationship with the vendor so they are always charging you reasonable prices.
i've read more and more experiences on these forums that say the old ways are slowly ending, so everyone needs to decide their own risk threshold and plan accordingly with a contingency plan if they get denied re-entry in Uruguay or wherever. here are some links you can read other people write about their issues. and though many will disagree with me, it's obviously illegal to overstay your 90-day Tourist Visa; otherwise, there would be no date or need to pay to extend it another 90 days. whether it's a small-fine offense or a 'black mark' on your immigration record, no one knows, but i have a dog and i want citizenship, so i would NEVER overstay or do border runs unless all of my rentier residency or university or work possibilities failed completely...and then i would end up paying a lawyer 2-6k USD to stay legally. lots of reading below:
www.expatsba.com
who are you talking to?
I think if someone is trying to possibly get citizenship one day then more care should be taken. But for the typical expat that is coming or going I still haven't had friends that have been here forever have any issues at all. Many people don't want permanent residency here or citizenship for tax reasons. @StatusNomadicus makes a good point about not knowing if things will change with this new administration but so far nothing I have seen or heard from many friends that have either overstayed or just travel around on back and forth travel (border runs) have had problems. But none of these people necessarily want citizenship here.i've read more and more experiences on these forums that say the old ways are slowly ending, so everyone needs to decide their own risk threshold and plan accordingly with a contingency plan if they get denied re-entry in Uruguay or wherever. here are some links you can read other people write about their issues. and though many will disagree with me, it's obviously illegal to overstay your 90-day Tourist Visa; otherwise, there would be no date or need to pay to extend it another 90 days. whether it's a small-fine offense or a 'black mark' on your immigration record, no one knows, but i have a dog and i want citizenship, so i would NEVER overstay or do border runs unless all of my rentier residency or university or work possibilities failed completely...and then i would end up paying a lawyer 2-6k USD to stay legally. lots of reading below:
Is it true that 2 visa overstays = auto 5 year ban?
Border runs seem like they are technically illegal "According to Bajo_cero2, visa runs constitute perpetration of a fraud by abusing the tourist visa (living here as a "fake tourist" without the appropriate legal residency): '5 Americans rejected at the border yesterday Yesterday 5 Americans...
who are you talking to?
yes i for sure clicked "Ignore" on you - why would i expose myself to childish Marxist claims where the world is framed as a false dialectical between Avatar innocent 'noble savages' fighting for survival, against the evil colonizing foreigners that are operating in a zero-sum mindset where they loot and plunder without any humanity or regard for the populace? they say you become an average of the people you surround yourself with - in this case, i don't want to become dumber by seeing your posts. every now and then i'll un-hide the Peronists/dumbasses to reassess
but really, are you talking to Mate the tea, asking for help, or are you a Commonwealth dude that accidentally posted a reply instead of a direct message? someone else can help you here - i'm still dumbfounded by how stupid of a life outlook you have. holy sh*t, have you ever read your own writing out loud and thought about how society would look, if most people operated on your machiavellian 'principles'? i would HATE to live anwhere near you, or associate with you. what a disgusting life outlook that could only make sense in some sort of medieval templars-versus-jihadists idiotic waste of life
I just assumed he typed that by mistake but maybe not. In another post he said he was drunk the other night so could be it.
Yes Vince there seem like a lot of expats here that have been living here for years and years. My father talked to an accountant who said you might not want permanent residency in Argentina for tax reasons due to their asset tax. So that makes sense why many people don't want permanent residency there if they own assets in other countries.
Thanks for posting @Darksider415. I was wondering about that. It sounded too blatant to me. Especially if they give a receipt I can't really see any way the person will pocket the funds. It would be different if they didn't give a receipt.
As usual here in Argentina many government workers have no clue at all.
Strange they charge different prices but that explains it. A good lesson not to assume the worst or that someone is purposely trying to cheat you. Many times in Argentina it may be simple ignorance.
Thanks for sharing, where can I find this information online? When I searched it still had the old pricing. Thanks
Thanks @Darksider415 you always have great and helpful info!Cuadro Tasas Migratorias - Decreto 584/2024
www.argentina.gob.ar
Sadly I don't know anything about the renewal process, but that's because I went directly to permanent residency. I'm preparing for naturalization though, and I'll throw together a guide on my experiences once I formally kick that off.been away from this forum for a long time - came to ask if anyone has renewed their Residencia Temporaria in 2025 yet - can't find anything in the search results here or on the old censored forum...looks like the cost of starting or renewing a Residency is the same price, but the price is now 100,000 Pesos plus 6,000 for ReNaPer and 4,800 for Antecedentes Penales criminal history here in Argentina. total would be 110,800 Pesos or $90.82 USD at the Blue rate, ~97 USD at the MEP real-world rate for everything.
"Residencia Permanente o Temporaria / Prórroga Residencia Temporaria y/o cambio de categoría a Residente Permanente
Non-MerCoSur
100 UMSM"
Cuadro Tasas Migratorias - Decreto 584/2024
talk about a price difference from a year ago! i thought i remembered the price being 6,000 Pesos instead of 100k, since i was getting stuck and confused why there were 2 charges of the same 6k and one for 4,800. so i think the Argentine criminal history and ReNaPer prices are the same, but 6k went to 100k for the DNM/Migraciones submission to start the tramite.
does anyone else know anything about any other changes to the process? @Darksider415 @Vince @betsyross @earlyretirement
this will be my first renewal on RadEx (i'm helping someone again), and i know some things might have changed. i'll document all of it for the next person here...all the documents should be the same ones already uploaded for the initial RadEx application, except now this application includes a photo of the current DNI card front and back. hopefully the process here in Mendoza will be easier, since it's just a renewal, and they shouldn't need fingerprints or anything new Apostilled. that being said, i'll plan for the worst and hope for the best, since worst-case Migraciones could require all new rental contract, translated and apostilled, new Accountant number crunching for the person's Rentista funds, etc. - luckily they haven't left Argentina for a year, so the process should be as smooth as it possibly can be.
for now, all i can report is that you can still pay the RadEx fee with a US credit card, but you still need to pay cash for the 6,000 and 4,800 Pesos at a post office or bank. and the system seems to be working well for showing the paperwork process. more to come! but 100,000 Pesos is the thing that obviously changed the most for us non-MerCoSur folks.
good for you; i'm hoping to try for citizenship before having to do a second year of Rentista stuff. i'll update more next week once the cash payments clear and i see if there's an appointment needed
Wow you are lucky you went directly to permanent residency. I am debating whether to wait or just bite the bullet and start the process. In most countries it seems like it will get more difficult and more expensive not easier. But Argentina seems like forever it has been easy to just pay an overstay fee. @StatusNomadicus was your desire to do this because you plan to stay in Argentina for the long haul?
I heard on some podcast of some American saying that he just went straight to Citizenship after 2 years vs doing the temporary but not sure if it was just some ploy to make money because there was some fee to talk to them.
Agree that probably more difficult or tougher requirements. I regret not doing Mexico a few years ago. Before covid Mexican was very cheap requirements and income. Now it is much higher. I heard the same thing about that American saying he went straight to citizenship but I thought the same thing. He was trying to charge a few hundred bucks to give his secret. 🤡
