Betsy Ross
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That was my experience with immigration lawyers when I went through the process. It's been a long time since I did but it was the same back then with most of them giving totally different advice. Sometimes directly conflicting information from one another. I was glad to get my permanent residency when I did. I don't know if it will get more difficult in the future.@Bingo how many times have you been to Argentina?? seems like big plans...there was SO much that i read online, that ended up being very untrue when i got to Buenos Aires in Nov2023.
1. i wouldn't pay a year up-front, or even consider long-term renting without a DNI number. i lived in Airbnbs if you check my past posts, for several months in 3 provinces, and i can help you find some good listings on Airbnb to negotiate with (paying in Dollars, Zelle, crypto maybe but probably not, haggling from their Foreigner Pricing, etc.) - let me know which area, and when! 90% of Argies don't travel much and have sh*t customer service, so when you find a good landlord/Host, appreciate them.and don't be afraid to move your suitcase every month or 2 - there's a lot of freedom in being mobile, though some people can't handle the "stress." i found lots of places that looked good on paper, but were shady after being there a week. i was ALWAYS glad to be independent.
2. why permanent residency and citizenship? for me, i want to renounce my USA passport some day, so i'm here for political reasons (and safety from wars/nonsense/Islamism). have you read Doug Casey and James Hickman online? great resources.
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3. Immigration will need original. physical copies of a lot of pointless stuff. make sure you plan your trips perfectly, or you'll end up restarting the "clock" or paying $120 USD for DHL to send you a few pages. many things just take months to do. for instance, i bought a house in October/November a few months ago and i STILL don't have the deed 😛 we say "cosas argentinas"
4. i personally wouldn't overstay, because it's not a "crime" now, but it's still a violation of your visa. old-school people here will swear that it will never change...but it's up to your personal risk factor. i like to do everything in the "white" and have a perfect papertrail. just my style. if you're in Argentina for 90 days and you like it, just go pay the $20 USD or whatever and extend your Tourist Visa another 90 days - it takes 3 hours max, and i haven't heard of anyone getting denied. of course it's stressful not knowing if you'll be able to stay, 10 days in the future (you can't extend it until the last second, stupidly). there's a ton of info if you use the Search function here and on the old censored forum BAExpats dot org (but the owner Igor is a communist douchebag and deletes a ton of posts like a psycho).
5. i haven't had a stable address until i closed on my house in Mendoza, so if you have a friend that can let you use their mailing address, you're ahead of the game!! you can always change your address down the road - just the usual trámite bureaucracy like anywhere, to adjust it (i did mine at the Civil Registry in 2 hours, then got Immigration to change it in their system).
6. regarding your immigration lawyer, was it Delgado? most of those people have no clue, and don't actually have success stories. especially Rubilar, who is probably the biggest scammy-salesman. i asked 4 lawyers about everything from LLC, to Trust, to monthly transfers, but every single one has a different opinion. 2 lawyers once told me 2 opposite things. i'm currently 12 months into a Rentista application, and so far the Mendoza delegation has worked with me, but wants me to deposit A YEAR of 5x salaries into an Argentine bank account. so, be careful what you choose. they wanted me to do about 17k USD deposited in my Banco Nacion savings Peso account, at the official rate. and get proof apostilled, translated, accountant legalized, etc. which costs 400 bucks after all the paperwork and shipping. so let me know if you have any specific questions. and trust no one who is taking money from you 😛 Rentier stuff just is still Wild West territory, if you read these forums.
@StatusNomadicus no worries on the title deed issue. Mine took about 8 months to get. There was a big backlog with the government back when I got it but with the copy that I got at closing it was suitable for everything I needed it for. I think the only thing you might have problems doing is selling it before you get the title deed but doubt you would do that as the costs are so high to flip.