The 210 plan is a lower tier plan. I am not sure what is all included in the higher plans. My cousin is married to a Porteña. They are around the same age. They might be a little older around 40 years old but my cousin is 39. Just for both of them they are paying 1,265,000 pesos for that plan.
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earlyretirement
Moderator
OSDE is great. That is who I used when I was living in Buenos Aires and I had my two kids there. The 410 and 450 plan are the elite plans. Probably overkill for most people that are healthy. I did have the 410 plan and it was fantastic. Those plans are great. It even allows for cosmetic surgery every few years. Females can get breast implants all paid on insurance.
Unfortunately the health care premiums are rising again. Most that I am seeing are going up 5% to 6% a month again. I agree with those that say true inflation is greater than what the government is saying it is.
Digital Nomad
Well-known member
That is a HUGE difference between the 210 and 450 plan from OSDE!
Ok that explains the difference from the lower tier and the higher tier plans. That is an unbelievable benefit on being about to get a boob job under your insurance! No wonder it's so much more. No wonder I see so many females here with boob jobs.
Yes @earlyretirement is right. I just asked why they are on such a high OSDE plan and it was for the cosmetic surgery option. She said that she can get cosmetic surgery every several years. That is why it's a higher plan.
earlyretirement
Moderator
After a few months of relatively stable medical premiums, it has jumped up again. I just got an employees bill and it had a big jump up from last month. It is now about 200% more than it was in December 2023. Inflation is being contained on some things like food but it's jumped up on many other things. Let's see if the government can really contain inflation in 2025.
The skyrocketing increases in private health insurance continue, and the coverage is no longer what it used to be. They’ve reduced the available services and even charge copays for medical care. It’s truly ridiculous that prices are doubling beyond inflation. This is why the government is once again looking to intervene, as they believe it’s an abuse.
That's why I believe things were better managed in the past, as there used to be an overseer who regulated them and prevented excessive increases. Now they raise prices deliberately whenever they want.
That's why I believe things were better managed in the past, as there used to be an overseer who regulated them and prevented excessive increases. Now they raise prices deliberately whenever they want.
Melibaires
Well-known member
The free market isn’t working; I hope the government intervenes to stop these uncontrolled price increases. According to this chart, Osde, Medifé, and Swiss Medical had the smallest increases.
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Top 10 de aumentos de prepagas: por qué algunas suben cerca de la inflación y otras casi el doble
Los incrementos de noviembre anunciados van del 3,5 al 6,9 por ciento.Expertos analizan las variables por las que las cuotas suben más o menos.El derrotero del Gobierno para tratar de tener a raya los ajustes mensuales.
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Betsy Ross
Well-known member
Agree these increases are nuts. Mine has also jumped up 200% in less than a year.The free market isn’t working; I hope the government intervenes to stop these uncontrolled price increases. According to this chart, Osde, Medifé, and Swiss Medical had the smallest increases.
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Top 10 de aumentos de prepagas: por qué algunas suben cerca de la inflación y otras casi el doble
Los incrementos de noviembre anunciados van del 3,5 al 6,9 por ciento.Expertos analizan las variables por las que las cuotas suben más o menos.El derrotero del Gobierno para tratar de tener a raya los ajustes mensuales.
Mine too; it seems like an exaggeration. I also read that self-employed workers (monotributistas) will have changes in their coverage. I’m not sure if that’s a good thing.
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They’re covering fewer needs and charging more; it feels like the world is upside down. Now they’re even placing limitations on prescriptions for expensive medications.
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El superintendente de Seguros de Salud, Gabriel Oriolo, ratificó que la Resolución 3934 publicada ayer afecta a los planes cerrados en cuanto a drogas de alto costo y reconoció que, a raíz de la confusión, se prepara una nueva norma aclaratoria
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I still can't get over the inflation there. 6% a month inflation blows my mind.The free market isn’t working; I hope the government intervenes to stop these uncontrolled price increases. According to this chart, Osde, Medifé, and Swiss Medical had the smallest increases.
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Top 10 de aumentos de prepagas: por qué algunas suben cerca de la inflación y otras casi el doble
Los incrementos de noviembre anunciados van del 3,5 al 6,9 por ciento.Expertos analizan las variables por las que las cuotas suben más o menos.El derrotero del Gobierno para tratar de tener a raya los ajustes mensuales.
200% increases on anything in less than a year is mind boggling.
Uncle Wong
Well-known member
It was 25% monthly rate in December. 300% a year inflation just blows me away. I don't know if I buy their official inflation numbers. Everyone I know in BA tells me rates are way worse than what the government is saying and based on what I'm reading on this forum it sounds like it is higher too. Besides Ubers and sounds like grocery store is about 4% a month inflation, utilities, restaurants, taxis, and just about everything else keeps going up at a fast pace.
tylerx
Member
Regarding this new resolution, my health insurance sent me an email stating that this will not affect me at all and that I will continue to have the same coverage.They’re covering fewer needs and charging more; it feels like the world is upside down. Now they’re even placing limitations on prescriptions for expensive medications.
Planes médicos y cobertura de medicamentos: cómo afecta a los fármacos más recetados
El superintendente de Seguros de Salud, Gabriel Oriolo, ratificó que la Resolución 3934 publicada ayer afecta a los planes cerrados en cuanto a drogas de alto costo y reconoció que, a raíz de la confusión, se prepara una nueva norma aclaratoria
terry55
New member
Unfortunately, price increases continue every month; it’s the same story. I agree with Melibaires that the government made a poor decision by stopping its intervention in controlling prices for private health insurance. Now it’s completely out of control.
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Los aumentos que llegan en noviembre: transporte, agua, prepagas y alquileres
Perfilando el cierre de 2024, continúan los aumentos en servicios tarifarios, transporte, prepagas y alquiler. El detalle de las subas que se vienen próximamente.
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BuySellBA
Administrator
The steep inflation in private medical care costs has not stopped. It keeps going up far surpassing inflation rates.
Health insurance companies in Argentina have begun to inform their members about new increases in premiums for January 2025. According to the available information, the increases will range between 3% and 3.9%, depending on the company and the specific plan.
This is one category that we have posted in detail about how inflation has been terrible in healthcare insurance costs. It just keeps flying higher much higher than inflation.
The range of increase for January 2025 will be from 3% to 3.9%.
OSDE: 3.6%
Swiss Medical and Omint: 3.9%
Galeno: 3.7%
Medicus: 3.8%
Medifé: 3.4%
Sancor Salud: 3%
Healthcare premiums have gone up 200% year over year from December 2023 to December 2024.
In December 2024, the average increase was 3.8%. The inflation reported by INDEC for November 2024 was 2.4%.
Companies in the sector argue that these increases are necessary to guarantee the continuity and quality of the services provided. Additionally, since July 2024, health insurance companies have had the freedom to establish monthly increases in their premiums.
Members are bleeding out with this type of inflation. For the first time, many people are having to drop their private coverage.
Health insurance companies in Argentina have begun to inform their members about new increases in premiums for January 2025. According to the available information, the increases will range between 3% and 3.9%, depending on the company and the specific plan.
This is one category that we have posted in detail about how inflation has been terrible in healthcare insurance costs. It just keeps flying higher much higher than inflation.
The range of increase for January 2025 will be from 3% to 3.9%.
OSDE: 3.6%
Swiss Medical and Omint: 3.9%
Galeno: 3.7%
Medicus: 3.8%
Medifé: 3.4%
Sancor Salud: 3%
Healthcare premiums have gone up 200% year over year from December 2023 to December 2024.
In December 2024, the average increase was 3.8%. The inflation reported by INDEC for November 2024 was 2.4%.
Companies in the sector argue that these increases are necessary to guarantee the continuity and quality of the services provided. Additionally, since July 2024, health insurance companies have had the freedom to establish monthly increases in their premiums.
Members are bleeding out with this type of inflation. For the first time, many people are having to drop their private coverage.
LyellLanatone
Member
Whats the opinion around here on Luigi ?
My own experience is you pay a fortune into healthcare for decades and decades then you finally make a reasonable claim and an AI chatbot denies it ... yeah that makes people incredibly mad and desperate
My own experience is you pay a fortune into healthcare for decades and decades then you finally make a reasonable claim and an AI chatbot denies it ... yeah that makes people incredibly mad and desperate
Betsy Ross
Well-known member
Never think it's a good idea to kill someone. Insurance companies are obscene in the USA but don't think killing the CEO is a solution. I would have rather him bombed some United Healthcare building that had no one in it. But not take a human life. I was under the impression his family member was with United Healthcare but that doesn't seem to be the case.
My dad died of cancer and even though he had coverage the SOB insurance companies made his last years miserable. He also had a lot of out of pocket charges. Had to argue with the insurance companies so I don't blame people for being angry. Not sure killing CEOs is the solution. We are at a tipping point however and not sure what it will take to get them to change. Many people feel sympathy for him or can relate to the anger.
Avocado
Well-known member
You don't kill people you disagree with. Period.
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