I agree with Sunny. Many of your posts come across as intelligent but then when I read some of your other posts it is a huge turn off and makes me wonder if your posts I thought were intelligent are accurate. Just skip the foul talk.
Also agree. No forum needs cursing. It adds zero value at all to the discussion.
Reminds me of one of my dads friends. One of the smartest guys I ever met. But he always feels the need to use the F word and he is always using foul language and everyone automatically assumes the guy is an idiot. A shame too.
1000% Agree with you. No reason for always talk bad on forum.
part of that new-world-order stuff, eh? that would be a shame, but it's always smartest to hedge against those things ... 'plan for the worst while hoping for the best'
1. a tax resident is "a foreigner who has obtained its permanent residence status in Argentina or has legally been living in the country for twelve or more (Income Tax Law, section 119)" according to https://www.oecd.org/tax/automatic-...nce/tax-residency/Argentina_Tax_Residency.pdf
I guess you would prefer an echo chamber where people only post if they agree with your thoughts. Cursing on forums is just strange to me.
Agree about Reddit. Not just on the BA Forum but most turn into a cesspool which renders going to them useless as you're having to scroll through endless amounts of it to find gems.
I agree this is the best Buenos Aires forum available. I hope it stays that way. Everyone is mostly very nice and civil here.
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Thanks for sharing all that info. No, I don't have any clients that have recently gotten their permanent residency here. Most of my clients never bother with DNI. Only a few over the years have gotten their DNI. There are big tax consequences for Americans to have permanent residency here so most don't bother with it.continuing on with Rentista/Pensionista discussion, on the old censored forum there is chatter about a Pension-earner having to deposit 2 months worth of 5x salary, in Pesos, to get their DNI approved:
Pensionado Visa Peso requirement
No, I did not get any notification at all from the switch from supervisor approval to disposition of residency protocol. I only noticed the change when I checked my status near the end of October. In fact, step #9 was the "TRAMITE EN PROCESO DE SUPERVISION", with the date listed next to it...
for Rentista, i did not (yet) get this requirement. i was verbally told in Cordoba Province at Migraciones (when i asked; otherwise there was no mention of the details) that i would need to deposit in Pesos the 5x monthly salary for every month i wanted Residency. calculating a possible 35% tax as well as losing the many Pesos from Blue Dollar to Official rate, this could be very expensive over 2 years, especially since i'm not making any money, but am instead using a HYSA/High-Yield Savings Account with fixed disbursements monthly to my Checking account (all in the USA, all in Dollars). if the monthly salary is 234,316 Pesos: https://www.infobae.com/economia/20...el-salario-minimo-vital-y-movil-en-mayo-2024/
...x5 would be 1,171,580 Pesos per month, at the Official Rate 905.50 Pesos/USD seems like the best-possible scenario (not sure about this) https://bluedollar.net/official-rate/
.....the requirement would be $1,294 USD per month, deposited into an Argentine account (for me, at BNA) in Pesos. if that was taxed at 35%, it would be a cost of $453 USD per month, and if you add-in the 214.5 Peso/USD difference between Blue and Official Dollar rates (1120 - 905.50), $1,294 x 214.5 Pesos = 277,563 Pesos per month lost, or $248 USD per month extra, so 24 months of 453 and 248 could potentially be $16,824 USD to get citizenship if you followed these possible requirements.
****this math is surely wrong, and i don't know which Buy/Sell (Compra/Venta) number to use for the Blue and Official Dollar rates, and i'm sure i made several mistakes, but i'm not sure anyone has ever tried to calculate the potential cost of a Pension/Rentier cost in the worst-case scenario*****
that being said, i wouldn't just go send Rubilar @Bajo_cero2 $7,000 USD and hope for the best, given his lack of actual references who have won citizenship after being illegal (insert joke about Roman slave serf laws, as needed). but it might not be a bad idea for someone who is making $5,000 USD/month in a Pension/retirement to hire a Public Accountant or some sort of financial law firm, because the few grand spent might save you any more thousands. got any clients who have any actual number about possible lost Dollar value, @earlyretirement? or have anyone you know that has done this math, @Betsy Ross or @Wally? on the old forum, @steveinbsas would have been really great at calculating this much better than my initial attempt.
BUT, for actual real-world data as of May2024, my letter or "Intimación" for Rentista (Savings) said:
"Por la presente se lo intima a Ud. dentro de los 30 días de ésta notificación a presentar ante la Delegación de esta DNM con jurisdicción sobre su domicilio, la siguiente documentación: ACREDITAR ANTE LA DIRECCIÓN NACIONAL DE MIGRACIONES EL INGRESO AL PAIS DE LOS FONDOS PERCIDIBOS, POR INTERMEDIO DE INSTITUCIONES BANCARIAS O FINANCIERAS AUTORIZADAS POR EL BANCO CENTRAL DE LA REPÚBLICA ARGENTINA. PRESENTAR CONSTANCIA DE CUENTA BANCARIA ABIERTA EN ARGENTINA. LA PRESENTE SE EFECTUA BAJO APERCIBIMIENTO DE RESOLVER CON LOS ELEMENTOS OBRANTES EN AUTOS. IMPORTANTE: La documentación solicitada deberá ser adjuntada a través de la página web: www.migraciones.gob.ar, sección de Autogestión. Deberá ingresar a "Residencias – Seguí el estado de tu trámite" y luego colocar su número de expediente y fecha de nacimiento en los campos requeridos. Desde allí podrá incorporar la documentación como archivo pdf. Quedan exceptuadas aquellas intimaciones en las cuales Ud. ha sido expresamente citado a presentarse en forma presencial."
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"You are hereby invited within 30 days of this notification to present to Migraciones the following documentation: ACCREDITED ENTRY OF FUNDS INTO ARGENTINA, THROUGH BANKS REGULATED BY THE CENTRAL BANK. SUBMIT 'CONSTANCIA' PROOF OF OPEN BANK ACCOUNT IN ARGENTINA.THIS IS MADE UNDER THE WARNING OF RESOLVING WITH THE ELEMENTS WORKING IN CARS. IMPORTANT: The requested documentation must be attached through the website: www.migraciones.gob.ar, Self-management section. You must enter 'ResidencIes – Follow the status of your procedure' and then enter your file number and date of birth in the required fields. From there you can add the documentation as a pdf file. Exceptions are those summonses in which you have been expressly summoned to appear in person."
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(i have no idea what "apercibimiento de resolver con los elementos obrantes en autos" means, and neither does Google Translate, apparently). cars? automatically??
anyway, i was required with this "Intimación" to open a bank account (did it at Banco de la Nacion/BNA, with my Precaria), then upload a "Constancia" (opening proof/statement), then i went from "Web Pendiente" status to "Tramite en Proceso de Supervision" - which others have mentioned can take 2 months or almost a year to get a DNI. i suspect the next thing they will send is a requirement to show proof i have deposited Pesos. we shall see! i probably won't take the 'hit' on the exchange rate, and risk paying a ton of taxes to the IRS (AFIP), until i'm forced to (and when both an Accountant and Lawyer tell me there's no way around it).
Looking thru some old bookmarks there was this post on the old forum of someone using Rubilarcontinuing on with Rentista/Pensionista discussion, on the old censored forum there is chatter about a Pension-earner having to deposit 2 months worth of 5x salary, in Pesos, to get their DNI approved:
Pensionado Visa Peso requirement
No, I did not get any notification at all from the switch from supervisor approval to disposition of residency protocol. I only noticed the change when I checked my status near the end of October. In fact, step #9 was the "TRAMITE EN PROCESO DE SUPERVISION", with the date listed next to it...
for Rentista, i did not (yet) get this requirement. i was verbally told in Cordoba Province at Migraciones (when i asked; otherwise there was no mention of the details) that i would need to deposit in Pesos the 5x monthly salary for every month i wanted Residency. calculating a possible 35% tax as well as losing the many Pesos from Blue Dollar to Official rate, this could be very expensive over 2 years, especially since i'm not making any money, but am instead using a HYSA/High-Yield Savings Account with fixed disbursements monthly to my Checking account (all in the USA, all in Dollars). if the monthly salary is 234,316 Pesos: https://www.infobae.com/economia/20...el-salario-minimo-vital-y-movil-en-mayo-2024/
...x5 would be 1,171,580 Pesos per month, at the Official Rate 905.50 Pesos/USD seems like the best-possible scenario (not sure about this) https://bluedollar.net/official-rate/
.....the requirement would be $1,294 USD per month, deposited into an Argentine account (for me, at BNA) in Pesos. if that was taxed at 35%, it would be a cost of $453 USD per month, and if you add-in the 214.5 Peso/USD difference between Blue and Official Dollar rates (1120 - 905.50), $1,294 x 214.5 Pesos = 277,563 Pesos per month lost, or $248 USD per month extra, so 24 months of 453 and 248 could potentially be $16,824 USD to get citizenship if you followed these possible requirements.
****this math is surely wrong, and i don't know which Buy/Sell (Compra/Venta) number to use for the Blue and Official Dollar rates, and i'm sure i made several mistakes, but i'm not sure anyone has ever tried to calculate the potential cost of a Pension/Rentier cost in the worst-case scenario*****
that being said, i wouldn't just go send Rubilar @Bajo_cero2 $7,000 USD and hope for the best, given his lack of actual references who have won citizenship after being illegal (insert joke about Roman slave serf laws, as needed). but it might not be a bad idea for someone who is making $5,000 USD/month in a Pension/retirement to hire a Public Accountant or some sort of financial law firm, because the few grand spent might save you any more thousands. got any clients who have any actual number about possible lost Dollar value, @earlyretirement? or have anyone you know that has done this math, @Betsy Ross or @Wally? on the old forum, @steveinbsas would have been really great at calculating this much better than my initial attempt.
BUT, for actual real-world data as of May2024, my letter or "Intimación" for Rentista (Savings) said:
"Por la presente se lo intima a Ud. dentro de los 30 días de ésta notificación a presentar ante la Delegación de esta DNM con jurisdicción sobre su domicilio, la siguiente documentación: ACREDITAR ANTE LA DIRECCIÓN NACIONAL DE MIGRACIONES EL INGRESO AL PAIS DE LOS FONDOS PERCIDIBOS, POR INTERMEDIO DE INSTITUCIONES BANCARIAS O FINANCIERAS AUTORIZADAS POR EL BANCO CENTRAL DE LA REPÚBLICA ARGENTINA. PRESENTAR CONSTANCIA DE CUENTA BANCARIA ABIERTA EN ARGENTINA. LA PRESENTE SE EFECTUA BAJO APERCIBIMIENTO DE RESOLVER CON LOS ELEMENTOS OBRANTES EN AUTOS. IMPORTANTE: La documentación solicitada deberá ser adjuntada a través de la página web: www.migraciones.gob.ar, sección de Autogestión. Deberá ingresar a "Residencias – Seguí el estado de tu trámite" y luego colocar su número de expediente y fecha de nacimiento en los campos requeridos. Desde allí podrá incorporar la documentación como archivo pdf. Quedan exceptuadas aquellas intimaciones en las cuales Ud. ha sido expresamente citado a presentarse en forma presencial."
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"You are hereby invited within 30 days of this notification to present to Migraciones the following documentation: ACCREDITED ENTRY OF FUNDS INTO ARGENTINA, THROUGH BANKS REGULATED BY THE CENTRAL BANK. SUBMIT 'CONSTANCIA' PROOF OF OPEN BANK ACCOUNT IN ARGENTINA.THIS IS MADE UNDER THE WARNING OF RESOLVING WITH THE ELEMENTS WORKING IN CARS. IMPORTANT: The requested documentation must be attached through the website: www.migraciones.gob.ar, Self-management section. You must enter 'ResidencIes – Follow the status of your procedure' and then enter your file number and date of birth in the required fields. From there you can add the documentation as a pdf file. Exceptions are those summonses in which you have been expressly summoned to appear in person."
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(i have no idea what "apercibimiento de resolver con los elementos obrantes en autos" means, and neither does Google Translate, apparently). cars? automatically??
anyway, i was required with this "Intimación" to open a bank account (did it at Banco de la Nacion/BNA, with my Precaria), then upload a "Constancia" (opening proof/statement), then i went from "Web Pendiente" status to "Tramite en Proceso de Supervision" - which others have mentioned can take 2 months or almost a year to get a DNI. i suspect the next thing they will send is a requirement to show proof i have deposited Pesos. we shall see! i probably won't take the 'hit' on the exchange rate, and risk paying a ton of taxes to the IRS (AFIP), until i'm forced to (and when both an Accountant and Lawyer tell me there's no way around it).
baexpats.org
Yikes! I never saw that post but reading it doesn't exactly inspire confidence. I'm not sure if you meant for that to be a testimonial or not. I was confused by it as it sounded like a lot of mistakes and then at the end he said he had to hire a residency lawyer in 2016. That didn't sound like it was Rubilar unless I'm mistaken. That sounds like a lot of years and it wasn't successful until he married an Argentine permanent resident.Looking thru some old bookmarks there was this post on the old forum of someone using Rubilar
I got my citizenship after 6 years
If the new wealth tax On “great fortunes” ($2-3m+) is passed, it will create a new form of taxation based on nationality. Meaning if you are a citizen, regardless if you are resident here or abroad and you fall into that category you are liable to pay the tax in a similar way that US citizens...
Read the last post. In the end he said he would still recommend him. That sounds like a very difficult case with an arrest record of a serious criminal conviction. Back when I applied they were very strict and I don't believe you could have any criminal record and in fact I had a friend that had an assault charge as he got in a fight and was defending himself but he was denied a DNI. This was many years ago.
great link, love it when people journal things like that! props, @Camel
the report from @camel shows how he wasn't informed about 1: the parent-name-delay of 4 years, 2: the rejection from leaving Argentina for a short time in the USA that Rubilar approved, 3: the weird process of demanding to be arrested by the USA Embassy, and 4: Rubilar's continual Nazi-name-calling strategies (and i imagine some 'Roman serf slave feudal law' comments as well) that may have put @camel's case in jeopardy to set a precedent for other Rubilar cases.i read it the same as well. but once the Residency lawyer got residency, it seemed to unlock the Citizenship case Rubilar had already started. who knows!
yeah, i agree as a last resort, but probably just spending some money to get legit Residency would be quicker and cheaper for 95% of people. no idea!
www.bowtiedmara.io
Great work as always @StatusNomadicus on keeping us updated.great link, love it when people journal things like that! props, @Camel
note that there are some serious issues with how Rubilar was reported to perform (versus his very bold claims in the old forum for years). the client asked if a quick USA trip would interrupt the 2 years of continuous residence, and Rubilar assured them no (he most recently ha assured 7 months in Argentina per calendar year is sufficient), yet that did not end up being the case for the judge.
i know everyone wants to believe most lawyers are professional and all of that, but i still believe the $6,500 USD contains money to bribe certain judges. i have no proof other than commonsense and the way the world works; the same thing happens with physicians prescribing certain brands of medications, medical folks referring certain 'associates', etc. (or lobbying from various entities/SuperPACs). it's not evil, it's just how most high positions get paid more. this makes sense why some lawyers keep changing judges until they get certain ones
also, on the old censored forums, @bwyonsea/@Bajo_cero2 never responds to criticisms; if i was running a business and offering advice online, i would absolutely never sit quietly if people were questioning my integrity. i would immediately offer evidence for why i'm following the ethical and legal way (not only to get more clients, but to show i'm acting in good faith). but one of hundreds of criticisms like "key to the resolution of that case turned out to be the exact thing [Rubilar] claims is never needed - residency. (That he repeats this claim in this very thread, knowing full well the circumstances of the case, is every bit the chutzpah I’ve come to expect from the learned gentleman.)"
...goes unanswered like almost all questions/criticisms. this is why i never hired Rubilar, and why i wouldn't recommend it to anyone unless there was literally no other choice (there probably is). too many unanswered questions, too many criticisms that he ignores (but spends time on the forum answering other questions and posting about Roman slavery racism laws), and too high of a price with zero guarantee (and the mothafucka wants 6k USD cash; bro, it's Argentina, that would be over eight thousand 1,000-Peso notes, or carrying around thousands of USD (which are almost impossible to get unless you bring them on the flight)...just accept electronic payment like everyone else! we all know you upper-class folks have several USD offshore accounts; everyone does.
i read it the same as well. but once the Residency lawyer got residency, it seemed to unlock the Citizenship case Rubilar had already started. who knows!
yeah, i agree as a last resort, but probably just spending some money to get legit Residency would be quicker and cheaper for 95% of people. no idea!
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continuing on with the process in Cordoba Province, my status on Migraciones' site
https://www.migraciones.gov.ar/accesible/consultaTramitePrecaria/ConsultaUnificada.php (which you do NOT receive an email about, so i've been checking it every morning with coffee)
finally changed from "Supervision" to "DISPOSICIÓN DE RESIDENCIA PROTOCOLIZADA" - which shows as the last step...yet i still have a button to Attach a PDF. website poor design/glitch, or am i suddenly going to need to show deposited Peso money in my Argentine bank account at the last minute of my 90-day Precaria? lots of unknowns still, but overall my lady and i have been quite successful at doing everything without hiring a translator/expediter/lawyer (i did pay for 3 short consultations when i was first in BsAs to see if they had any sort of common theme - they did not).
the last i was told by the Cordoba Migraciones is that 5x-salary needs to be transferred every month i want residency. they told my girlfriend a few weeks later that she just needed to deposit a 5x-salary once into her Banco Nacion account. this is a huge difference; transferring would be at official rate, probably taxed, and certainly incurring fees 12 times a year...yet she might be able to take out Pesos with WesternUnion and deposit cash at the Blue rate only once to get her DNI. what the hell! will update more later. as of May2024 the salary is:
234,315 Pesos
x5 is 1,171,575 Pesos/month
which at 1298 ARS/USD on WU site right now without fees, would be $903 USD one time for her, supposedly to get a DNI and a year's worth of Residencia Rentista. that would be amazing! and the debit MasterCard that comes with the BNA/BancoNacion account has some offers to use for local spends on groceries and services, though i haven't tried any yet: https://bna.com.ar/personas/descuentosypromociones
**note that her Precaria was granted the day she had her appointment (in the office at 10:45, didn't get seen until 13:30, wasn't done until 14:00) but she has an "Intimacion" to complete - she was told within 30 days to show a stamped piece of paper that the million-ish Pesos are in her BNA savings account (the paper actually says she has 90 days). she was able to use an electronic Precaria (i've been calling it a pre-Precaria, the one that was in-between her Tourist Visa for 9 days until her initial appointment at Migraciones) to open a "cuenta de ahorros" at BNA - the staff didn't seem to notice a difference between a 9-day Precaria and a 90-day "real" Precaria...i played dumb translating for her, and it worked! they asked her for her Social Security Number (could be related to USA and Argentina eventually sharing tax stuff?) but i didn't have to do that, so i told the bank employee that she didn't feel comfortable since so many scams "estafas" in the USA involve the SSN. she was a bit confused, but i explained that a DNI number is thrown-around in Argentina, but a SSN is neverrrrrr just mentioned at the grocery store; it's basically just for direct government interactions. my girlfriend was able to get her "Constancia" proof of Argentine bank account by using her passport number only (and maybe her parcel number/parcel County tax ID in the USA, not sure).
so, the next step is seeing if a Western Union cash deposit will work for proof, and how to get a stamped paper that the deposit was done. and if i can do the same, avoiding doing it 12 times per year. maybe i'll master this stuff and charge a small price to be a Migraciones/RadEx guide in the future, if i learn enough
now, to travel a bit in Argentina during the 90-day period! no car, but renting a car for 2 days to move my pup has been somewhat doable. i'll update more when i learn if in 2024 you can renew Precarias online within 5 or 10 days (i was told both), and how the process is actually done (end of July i'll post here). if anyone has a reliable cheap vehicle they want to lease to me or sell to me, i'm starting to research if it is worth it (but has prices are so high at 1050 Pesos/liter...maybe the global oil price drop will help, or the Milei cabinet will delete some gas tax laws). i found @BowTiedMara's substack post about it here:
Buying a car in Argentina
The road to bureaucracy hell is paved with forms and declarations
I read that post and that would NOT give me confidence in that lawyer reading it. It sounds like a lot of mistakes were made. The thing is the process under him with that method seems so cryptic and takes years and years. In that kind of system running a business, it's might be that he is hoping after so many years people don't post about the experience so it was nice to read that from that user, Camel.great link, love it when people journal things like that! props, @Camel
note that there are some serious issues with how Rubilar was reported to perform (versus his very bold claims in the old forum for years). the client asked if a quick USA trip would interrupt the 2 years of continuous residence, and Rubilar assured them no (he most recently ha assured 7 months in Argentina per calendar year is sufficient), yet that did not end up being the case for the judge.
i know everyone wants to believe most lawyers are professional and all of that, but i still believe the $6,500 USD contains money to bribe certain judges. i have no proof other than commonsense and the way the world works; the same thing happens with physicians prescribing certain brands of medications, medical folks referring certain 'associates', etc. (or lobbying from various entities/SuperPACs). it's not evil, it's just how most high positions get paid more. this makes sense why some lawyers keep changing judges until they get certain ones
also, on the old censored forums, @bwyonsea/@Bajo_cero2 never responds to criticisms; if i was running a business and offering advice online, i would absolutely never sit quietly if people were questioning my integrity. i would immediately offer evidence for why i'm following the ethical and legal way (not only to get more clients, but to show i'm acting in good faith). but one of hundreds of criticisms like "key to the resolution of that case turned out to be the exact thing [Rubilar] claims is never needed - residency. (That he repeats this claim in this very thread, knowing full well the circumstances of the case, is every bit the chutzpah I’ve come to expect from the learned gentleman.)"
...goes unanswered like almost all questions/criticisms. this is why i never hired Rubilar, and why i wouldn't recommend it to anyone unless there was literally no other choice (there probably is). too many unanswered questions, too many criticisms that he ignores (but spends time on the forum answering other questions and posting about Roman slavery racism laws), and too high of a price with zero guarantee (and the mothafucka wants 6k USD cash; bro, it's Argentina, that would be over eight thousand 1,000-Peso notes, or carrying around thousands of USD (which are almost impossible to get unless you bring them on the flight)...just accept electronic payment like everyone else! we all know you upper-class folks have several USD offshore accounts; everyone does.
i read it the same as well. but once the Residency lawyer got residency, it seemed to unlock the Citizenship case Rubilar had already started. who knows!
yeah, i agree as a last resort, but probably just spending some money to get legit Residency would be quicker and cheaper for 95% of people. no idea!
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continuing on with the process in Cordoba Province, my status on Migraciones' site
https://www.migraciones.gov.ar/accesible/consultaTramitePrecaria/ConsultaUnificada.php (which you do NOT receive an email about, so i've been checking it every morning with coffee)
finally changed from "Supervision" to "DISPOSICIÓN DE RESIDENCIA PROTOCOLIZADA" - which shows as the last step...yet i still have a button to Attach a PDF. website poor design/glitch, or am i suddenly going to need to show deposited Peso money in my Argentine bank account at the last minute of my 90-day Precaria? lots of unknowns still, but overall my lady and i have been quite successful at doing everything without hiring a translator/expediter/lawyer (i did pay for 3 short consultations when i was first in BsAs to see if they had any sort of common theme - they did not).
the last i was told by the Cordoba Migraciones is that 5x-salary needs to be transferred every month i want residency. they told my girlfriend a few weeks later that she just needed to deposit a 5x-salary once into her Banco Nacion account. this is a huge difference; transferring would be at official rate, probably taxed, and certainly incurring fees 12 times a year...yet she might be able to take out Pesos with WesternUnion and deposit cash at the Blue rate only once to get her DNI. what the hell! will update more later. as of May2024 the salary is:
234,315 Pesos
x5 is 1,171,575 Pesos/month
which at 1298 ARS/USD on WU site right now without fees, would be $903 USD one time for her, supposedly to get a DNI and a year's worth of Residencia Rentista. that would be amazing! and the debit MasterCard that comes with the BNA/BancoNacion account has some offers to use for local spends on groceries and services, though i haven't tried any yet: https://bna.com.ar/personas/descuentosypromociones
**note that her Precaria was granted the day she had her appointment (in the office at 10:45, didn't get seen until 13:30, wasn't done until 14:00) but she has an "Intimacion" to complete - she was told within 30 days to show a stamped piece of paper that the million-ish Pesos are in her BNA savings account (the paper actually says she has 90 days). she was able to use an electronic Precaria (i've been calling it a pre-Precaria, the one that was in-between her Tourist Visa for 9 days until her initial appointment at Migraciones) to open a "cuenta de ahorros" at BNA - the staff didn't seem to notice a difference between a 9-day Precaria and a 90-day "real" Precaria...i played dumb translating for her, and it worked! they asked her for her Social Security Number (could be related to USA and Argentina eventually sharing tax stuff?) but i didn't have to do that, so i told the bank employee that she didn't feel comfortable since so many scams "estafas" in the USA involve the SSN. she was a bit confused, but i explained that a DNI number is thrown-around in Argentina, but a SSN is neverrrrrr just mentioned at the grocery store; it's basically just for direct government interactions. my girlfriend was able to get her "Constancia" proof of Argentine bank account by using her passport number only (and maybe her parcel number/parcel County tax ID in the USA, not sure).
so, the next step is seeing if a Western Union cash deposit will work for proof, and how to get a stamped paper that the deposit was done. and if i can do the same, avoiding doing it 12 times per year. maybe i'll master this stuff and charge a small price to be a Migraciones/RadEx guide in the future, if i learn enough
now, to travel a bit in Argentina during the 90-day period! no car, but renting a car for 2 days to move my pup has been somewhat doable. i'll update more when i learn if in 2024 you can renew Precarias online within 5 or 10 days (i was told both), and how the process is actually done (end of July i'll post here). if anyone has a reliable cheap vehicle they want to lease to me or sell to me, i'm starting to research if it is worth it (but has prices are so high at 1050 Pesos/liter...maybe the global oil price drop will help, or the Milei cabinet will delete some gas tax laws). i found @BowTiedMara's substack post about it here:
Buying a car in Argentina
The road to bureaucracy hell is paved with forms and declarations
